lots of preflop action deepish, live game

[bozzer]

8 handed home game featuring a total of 4 2p2ers.

5p/10p blinds

My image is laggish TAG, capable of making moves pre flop.

I'm in MP, raise to £0.4, I get 3bet by a thinking 2p2er in late position to about £1.1, coldcalled by an inexperienced player in the blinds (who coldcalled 3bets frequently). I 4bet to about £4.5. After some thought the 3bettor shoves. The coldcaller folds. The 3bettor has me covered. I had about £16 at the start of the hand, and now have about £11 behind.

I've got KK. Call or fold?

[Scrubbo]

this is a joke right?

you need 33% equity with KK to call this. do you really think his hand range is just AA often enough for you to have less?

[corsakh]

Folding KK? LIVE?!

[relativity_x]

would villain push ak from late position or would he call your 4 bet withposition? Also, I think villain pushes enough with qq/jj here enough to make it profitable for when he does have aa.

[C4LL4W4Y]

Yep you pay AA here. Unless he has some super sick live tell.

[relativity_x]

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Yep you pay AA here. Unless he has some super sick live tell.

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did he eat the oreo?

[Sweir]

2p2ers get really FPS when playing each other so he could even have air here. Pretty standard call.

[Voy Por Ustedes]

Call

[bozzer]

results: i tanked a little bit, claimed that it was 'the toughest preflop spot in my life' and then decided 2-1 with KK was just too good to turn down and called. he had aces, which held.

FWIW I still think this is quite close, but i think have to call.

[relativity_x]

There's no way you fold KK here in a cash game unless you're 80% sure that's what he's holding.

[bozzer]

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There's no way you fold KK here in a cash game unless you're 80% sure that's what he's holding.

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please tell me how you arrived at this number.

also, please estimate how often you think he has aces...

[monkover]

you have to call... there´s just no way i´m ever laying KK preflop down unless it´s 500bb deep or i have the sickest read ever.