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thedopplegangers
06-26-2007, 02:31 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($7.20)
MP ($13.95)
CO ($10.55)
Button ($4.40)
Hero ($10.35)
BB ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.9, BB raises to $2.3, UTG raises to $4.1, Hero ????,
Vyse
06-26-2007, 02:40 AM
I'm shoving at 10 NL
semu
06-26-2007, 06:19 AM
I think that this is a fold. You can beat ( JJ, TT, top pair, flushdraw)
But there are so many things that can beat you ( two pair, set, straight, KK, AA). The changes are that one of your opponent has one of these hands.
Now you raised pre-flop and made a cbet on the flop and you got raised. Hmm what could he have? Now UTG re-raises. I think you are beat.
Pot odds are: 8.5 to 4.1. like 2.1 to 1. You are a big under dog if one of your opponent has a set or a straight.
I think I would fold.
Tevac
06-26-2007, 06:23 AM
While I agree that in NL10 shoving is sometimes worth the money (also as an educational expense), I would also fold here.
Andynan
06-26-2007, 07:43 AM
instafolds unless their PR is like 20+ and they both have AF > 3? One should have you beat.
justhetip
06-26-2007, 07:49 AM
I agree that one should at lease have you beat. At worst BB has a pair+draw and UTG has a set, I think.
Mr. Mojo31
06-26-2007, 10:12 AM
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I'm shoving at 10 NL

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The stakes are inconsequential, whether it’s $10 NL, $25 NL, $50 NL, $100 NL, etc. etc.; you're almost always behind with that action. I think it's an easy fold.
Vyse
06-26-2007, 10:18 AM
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I'm shoving at 10 NL

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The stakes are inconsequential, whether it’s $10 NL, $25 NL, $50 NL, $100 NL, etc. etc.; you're almost always behind with that action. I think it's an easy fold.

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They're really not. I've played 50, 25 and 10 NL, and it's much easier to get away with stacking off lighter and lighter at 10 NL, which is also why it's insanely easy to have a huge winrate there.
thedopplegangers
06-26-2007, 08:54 PM
Yea i also thought this was a fold after the action on the flop. thanks for the insight.