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calmB4storm
06-26-2007, 02:18 AM
I don't even know. This hand is <font color="orange">pissing</font> me off like none other.

Villain seemed decent.
Figured his flop raise is AJ-AK often enough for me to call.
Just give it up on the turn? Or the river? <font color="brown">Ugh!</font>

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.10/$0.25 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $39.75
BB: $24.30
UTG: $25.00
MP: $24.25
Hero (CO): $23.90
BTN: $41.80

UTG posts $0.25
Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG checks, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.00, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.85) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $3.75

Turn: ($14.85) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

River: ($24.85) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $12.05</font>, Hero calls all-in for $11.65
Uncalled bet of $0.40 returned to BB

Pot Size: $48.15 ($2.40 Rake)

bored
06-26-2007, 02:22 AM
I'd 3bet AI on the flop.

Leak?

calmB4storm
06-26-2007, 02:24 AM
It's probably better than my [censored] line.
I still have no [censored] clue.
Gonna beat off, sleep, and come back tomorrow. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Vyse
06-26-2007, 02:27 AM
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I'd 3bet AI on the flop.

Leak?

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Nope. Sounds fine to me.

Lego05
06-26-2007, 03:42 AM
3bet flop looks very good to me. Without the flush draw maybe just a call.

losingdonkey
06-26-2007, 03:45 AM
dont be afraid to push this flop, you're crushing most unknowns ranges

Pigslice
06-26-2007, 04:03 AM
And you don't want to see a crappy turn. What if turn is a T or a spade? Protect your hand on the flop and get it all in.

Pieny
06-26-2007, 04:18 AM
What kind of hands could call your preflop raise and then check raise you on the flop?

ATo, 44 and TT probably. It's fold on the flop for me untill i get a better spot or a read on vilain.

His raise on the flop is just the good size for commiting yourself. He wants a call imho.

Lego05
06-26-2007, 04:25 AM
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What kind of hands could call your preflop raise and then check raise you on the flop?

ATo, 44 and TT probably. It's fold on the flop for me untill i get a better spot or a read on vilain.

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Terrible. He could have tons of other hands: pair of aces, flush draw are the most likely. He could have A9,AJ,AQ, etc. just as easily as AT.


This is a really really easy flop 3bet.

Pieny
06-26-2007, 04:32 AM
i think aces would reraise preflop. Flush draw it's a 60-40 not a good spot if your not allready behind.

But i agree with you that 3 bet AI on flop is better than calling

Vyse
06-26-2007, 04:40 AM
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His raise on the flop is just the good size for commiting yourself. He wants a call imho.

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rofl weak tight

Lego05
06-26-2007, 04:43 AM
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i think aces would reraise preflop. Flush draw it's a 60-40 not a good spot if your not allready behind.

But i agree with you that 3 bet AI on flop is better than calling

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Yes AA would reraise pre-flop most likley. When I said a pair of Aces I didn't mean pocket Aces. I meant 1 ace which just paired the board with any random kicker.

ama0330
06-26-2007, 05:05 AM
You are all in because the key to unlimited hold them is to put your opponent to a decision for all his chips.

I would do one of two things:

1. Push the flop, or
2. Call the flop and push the turn.


Basically, at this level opponents are really apt to overplay big aces to I would expect to see a bare ace here a lot of the time.

Fiksdal
06-26-2007, 05:20 AM
Who is villain and what is your image? This is important.

I shove the flop though (unless villain is tight/passive or something, and even then I might just shove).

AA/TT are supposed to 3bet preflop, and AA is probably doing so 95% of the time, TT maybe 40%, so those are unlikely. Also there are very few combos of them.

AT is possible, but.

So are AJ/AQ. He should have 3bet preflop with AQ/AK, but if he could have flat called with TT he definitley could have flat called AJ/AQ/AK. I have seen passive folks at 25NL flat call QQ! To be honest I think AJ/AQ/AK make up the majority of villains flop range, cuz there is a chance he would have slow-played AT/TT some of the time (standard for random villain at 25NL).

Turn really suckks cuz obv now you aren't ahead of AJ anymore.

Flop line could either be flat calling intending to get it on on the turn, or just shoving the flop. I prefer shoving the flop.

dimeetrees
06-26-2007, 05:22 AM
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I'd 3bet AI on the flop.

Leak?

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calmB4storm
06-26-2007, 12:58 PM
Turns out Villain did have top two with ATo.
But I think you guys are definitely right, a re-raise all-in on the flop is the best play.
Just bad play + results oriented by me.

fees
06-26-2007, 01:05 PM
3 bet the flop all day u have teh nuts

monkover
06-26-2007, 01:10 PM
shove the flop

Jamougha
06-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Go all in somewhere.