Closest I've ever come to folding KK preflop...

[Beesnuts]

Both villians were in the 19/15 kinda range, but it was only over about 20 hands. Was I just seeing monsters under the bed?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $3.35
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.65
MP: $23.80
CO: $19.60
Hero (BTN): $9.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.60</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $6.75</font>, MP calls $6.15, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $9.85</font>, UTG calls $3.10, MP calls $3.10

Flop: ($29.70) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $0.80</font>, MP calls $0.80

Turn: ($31.30) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($31.30) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $31.30 ($2 Rake)

[crovax4444]

I ain't never scared (west side)! - Bonecrusher

Crovax

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I'd be surprised if MP doesn't have AA here.

[Beesnuts]

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I'd be surprised if MP doesn't have AA here.

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Exactly what I thought. I mean I was all ready to chalk it up as a good fold, had my cursor over the fold button and everything

[Shoe Lace]

Someone once said if you raise preflop and have 2 callers...

Then on the flop if you lead out (say with TPGK), next guy raises, other guy calls, you should fold without accurate reads.

I had this happen the other day. K x x flop, I had KJ. I lead out, got 2.5x raised, other guy called, I folded.

Their stacks got in on the turn, it ended up being AK vs a set.

Moral of story: If multiple people are calling/raising when multiple people are involved you might need to find a fold in there somewhere with an ok hand.

MP or UTG has AA for sure here.

[Beesnuts]

Well, UTG showed 77 and MP showed TT

I think folding KK PF is a little different than folding TPGK on the flop after being raised and having another caller. I mean, folding KK PF has to correct &lt;1% of the time.

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Well, UTG showed 77 and MP showed TT

I think folding KK PF is a little different than folding TPGK on the flop after being raised and having another caller. I mean, folding KK PF has to correct &lt;1% of the time.

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I'm surprised. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[vixticator]

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I mean, folding KK PF has to correct &lt;1% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]It's not like you are drawing dead to Aces. Usually both opponents don't have you covered and there is a side pot, too. Folding KK PF in microlimits just shouldn't happen.

[Shoe Lace]

I'd buddy list both and make sure I'm at their table whenever I play.

I figured the principal was the same. MP is showing ridiculous strength here by calling UTG's large raise knowing full well that you like your hand and are next to act.

Btw I have yet to fold KK once preflop, but on the cases where someone shows massive strength with ~200BBs, I have ran across AA multiple times. Usually, the lower their stack size is, the worse their range becomes.

[Beesnuts]

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I'm surprised. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Were you thinking someone had AA as well? Maybe folding was the right move at that particular time....

[vixticator]

I folded KK PF once.

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.15</font>, CO calls $0.15, Hero timed out OMG!, fold, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.05</font>, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BB calls $0.05

Brag: Ace on flop!

[wslee00]

reason #186878 why you shouldn't try to read too much into your opponents at uNL

[Beesnuts]

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reason #186878 why you shouldn't try to read too much into your opponents at uNL

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aint that the truff