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ajml
06-25-2007, 07:30 PM
Villain is 18/6/2.4 over 2k hands. He 8-10 tables and probably knows I 6-9 table. I am sure he knows I play him pretty straight-forward because of this.

Is this extremely standard and I am just a nit?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($50.45)</font>
Button ($226.20)
SB ($79.50)
BB ($49.20)
UTG ($69.30)
MP ($17.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($20.25) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40.45</font>...



I know its an overbet but a 3x raise leaves nothing behind so I figured shoving was better

Vyse
06-25-2007, 07:40 PM
Why is it poor form to overbet shove if a normal raise will leave you with not much behind? I think in situations like these a normal raise is better, because a lot of thinking players think an overbet shove is precisely a drawing hand, and whether it's true or not, in THIS case we don't want them to think that. It's going in either this street or next regardless, so whatever.

mugatu668
06-25-2007, 07:43 PM
I like it.

ajml
06-25-2007, 07:44 PM
I guess in cases like this one does a 5x AI raise fold any hands that a 3x one doesn't? It may not and yeah in that case it sucks. I think it has a better chance of folding out an AQ and probably AK whereas I think AK calls a 3x raise and then obv has to call the river, thoughts?

Vyse
06-25-2007, 08:00 PM
One could make the argument that by leaving some of your stack behind, it actually looks like you want a call since you both obv know the rest of your stack will get in

DMBFan23
06-25-2007, 08:13 PM
isn't this a PSR on the turn? Regardless, I think Vyse's thoughts on this are pretty deep, which is why I always leave tables when he sits down