NL50 AK faces a shove on TJ flop from 30 BB stack

[JROK777]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $83.65
UTG+1: $54.90
CO: $55.25
Button: $18.50
Hero: $47
BB: $30.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $28.55</font>, Hero ???

Villian is a normal 20 buy in short stacker who pushes PF w/88+ATo. Can we call this shove?

[Vyse]

... Why? You think Ace high is good?

[JROK777]

I think he may have only a pair and we have 10 out twice to beat that(@40%). Villian can't have a set as he pushes preflop with 88+. He could have JT or Q9s. There's a little bit of dead $ in the pot. Were getting 1.5 to 1. I folded but wondered if calling could be correct.

[goat_beard]

^^^^^^^^^ What he said.

[greggg230]

Well, you have ten outs, plus a backdoor flush if he just has like top pair or a pocket pair, so about 45% chance to make a winning hand. However, if he has a straight, you're down to 3-4 outs (depending on if he has the Q-high straight) plus the backdoor flush, so 20% or so. If he has a set, you're in worse shape because even if you make your hand, the board might pair.

I'd just fold

[PaulG]

I don't think you can ever call this.

[Vyse]

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Villian can't have a set as he pushes preflop with 88+.

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???

[JROK777]

This villian is willing to felt 88+ATo everytime he gets it PF. Just a read I have.

[Trae3ab]

You aren't deep enough to make this call to chase when Ace High is no good.

You would have to be "hoping" and praying he is on a smaller straight draw at best.

Do you really want to call with a straight draw and two overs on hopes and prayers?

Just because you get outflopped, doesn't mean you can't pick a better hand to bust this guy. If anything he has a better read on you and where you were at in the hand.

I would fold and pick a better spot and save my money.

[kolotoure]

I prob call because it's only 30bb and it is good for metagame

[edward2]

thats only?! 30ptbb, more than half buyin.
whats the reason to call this AK shove... nothing.

[ama0330]

This is a really easy fold, I can think of a lot of better things to throw half a stack at