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Worm75
06-25-2007, 12:19 AM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $13.50
BB: $7.85
Hero (UTG): $10.75
CO: $9.75
BTN: $6.15

Reads: <font color="blue">Hero just sat at table 3 hands ago and has raised the last two with no flop seen. No real history with villain but he runs 46/21/2 over 200 datamined hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.90</font>

Hero does what here???? Provide reasons not blanket one word responses, and why Hero's action is optimal....

We will play the hand out together and discuss the best ways to play the different streets.

Gullanian
06-25-2007, 12:21 AM
reraise him to $5. He's running at 46/21 so I think you beat most of his range. You're looking to get it all in on this flop, and push if the turn is a brick.

well named
06-25-2007, 12:31 AM
I agree reraise. I'd expect someone who flopped a straight here to slow play it a lot of the time. I put him on either top pair, an overpair, or maybe even any ten or six.

Even if we're pretty generous with the hands he might raise here I think you're ahead.

Board: 8c 7d 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.083% 70.60% 01.48% 1619433 33905.50 { 8d8h }
Hand 1: 27.917% 26.44% 01.48% 606420 33905.50 { TT+, ATs+, JTs, T8s, 65s, ATo+, JTo, T8o, 65o }

SykoraG
06-25-2007, 12:34 AM
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reraise him to $5. He's running at 46/21 so I think you beat most of his range. You're looking to get it all in on this flop, and push if the turn is a brick.

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Worm75
06-25-2007, 12:53 AM
merits of calling and CRAI a brick turn??

Manchild84
06-25-2007, 12:56 AM
Calling is bad because it gives him a free shot at the draws. Planning to c/r AI on turn makes it worse, because it potentially gives 2 free cards.
You've got to repop this.

jordiepop
06-25-2007, 01:00 AM
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Calling is bad because it gives him a free shot at the draws. Planning to c/r AI on turn makes it worse, because it potentially gives 2 free cards.
You've got to repop this.

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Vyse
06-25-2007, 01:24 AM
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Calling is bad because it gives him a free shot at the draws. Planning to c/r AI on turn makes it worse, because it potentially gives 2 free cards.
You've got to repop this.

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Yeah, calling and then checking would be the worst donk play in the world. No joke.

Standard 3bet, you're crushing his range and on flops like these, villain will have a hard time giving up pair + OESD, 2p, etc. They get quite anxious to put their money in on boards like these.

Worm75
06-25-2007, 01:57 AM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $13.50
BB: $7.85
Hero (UTG): $10.75
CO: $9.75
BTN: $6.15

Reads: <font color="blue">Hero just sat at table 3 hands ago and has raised the last two with no flop seen. No real history with villain but he runs 46/21/2 over 200 datamined hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.90</font>, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.75) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $7.45</font>

Well looks like I made the most donktastic play in the world(at least according to my respected colleagues.. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif)

Anyone see a call here????

I'd been running into the stone cold nuts here the last couple of days, so I played it weak tight, with the plan of CRAI on a bricked turn....literally wanted to kick myself in the balls when the Jc hit on the turn.

Kimo White Devil
06-25-2007, 01:57 AM
you know you have to 3-bet this flop, the rest is trivial from there...

the way you played it, you put every difficult decisions on your side

Worm75
06-25-2007, 02:03 AM
Yeah pretty much, just one of those hands that you make a retarded decision and the second you click the mouse you go doooooh!!

Been thinking about that hand all day, but first chance I had to post, and was trying to figure out if I played as bad as I thought I had.

Pigslice
06-25-2007, 02:07 AM
Wow that seems like the worst turn in the world. I'd fold without hesitation.

Vyse
06-25-2007, 02:12 AM
I think Tc would be the worst turn. Or 6c.

ama0330
06-25-2007, 04:48 AM
A pot sized raise on the flop is like $7 or something, and you only have about $9 behind, so just shove

Fiksdal
06-25-2007, 06:14 AM
3bet or shove or whatever the flop and laugh when he calls with A9o.

matrix
06-25-2007, 07:33 AM
When you have a set on the flop and you get re-raised with about a pot sized bet left in your stack just shove it in.

You get called with range that you are waaaaaaay ahead of.

as played fold turn.

Bonesy
06-25-2007, 10:38 AM
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A pot sized raise on the flop is like $7 or something, and you only have about $9 behind, so just shove

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I agree. Hero is OOP and there are a lot of unpleasant turn cards. Shove away.

Unknown Soldier
06-25-2007, 10:43 AM
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reraise him to $5. He's running at 46/21 so I think you beat most of his range. You're looking to get it all in on this flop, and push if the turn is a brick.

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this isnt villain dependent. Push flop

tripdeuces
06-25-2007, 11:05 AM
Board is too wet to not get most of the money in on the flop. Most of the hands he his drawing to he will probably 4-bet shove with the stack sizes anyway.