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K䲰䮥n
06-24-2007, 06:36 AM
...against these types of players (40/7/1).


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

BB ($234.61)
UTG ($109.45)
MP ($77.45)
CO ($26.12)
Button ($15.70)
Hero ($76.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.25</font>, BB calls $6.25, CO folds.

Turn: ($21.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero's plan is...?

Check/call turn and river? Value bet because he's loose? Please talk me through the hand and go through different scenarios. And please tell the whys behind your advices. Also, notice the stack sizes.

corsakh
06-24-2007, 06:37 AM
Bet/fold.

K䲰䮥n
06-24-2007, 06:38 AM
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And please tell the whys behind your advices.

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Bet/fold.

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corsakh
06-24-2007, 06:40 AM
We are probably good, but if we check we put put ourselves into a sticky situation where most villains would try to float.

K䲰䮥n
06-24-2007, 06:45 AM
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We are probably good, but if we check we put put ourselves into a sticky situation where most villains would try to float.

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Since we have TP floating wouldnt be that bad, would it? Obv occasionally villain would have a better hand than we have but over the long run would c/c be more profitable than c/f? Will we get more value out of hands that we beat by c/calling than bet/folding?

(I don't know, this is a real Question)

corsakh
06-24-2007, 06:46 AM
Thing he is not going to stop if you call and will bet the river, probably big. I believe we get more value from draws and weak aces if we bet.

cooker3
06-24-2007, 06:52 AM
Bet the turn because he is a calling station and will a) call down with his worst ace and b) call down with incorrect odds to his draw. If he raises then you can easily fold and fold if scary card hits the river.

K䲰䮥n
06-24-2007, 06:57 AM
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I believe we get more value from draws...

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b) call down with incorrect odds to his draw.

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This line makes sense on a draw heavy boards but this board isn't much of a draw heavy, is it..?

corsakh
06-24-2007, 06:58 AM
T9 is a draw also.

cooker3
06-24-2007, 07:22 AM
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I believe we get more value from draws...

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b) call down with incorrect odds to his draw.

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This line makes sense on a draw heavy boards but this board isn't much of a draw heavy, is it..?

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Well there are straight draws out there and from the stats he looks like the sort of player who could call with KJ, KQ, flush draw has hit the turn, again against this type of villain it's possible he has it.
In general at lower stakes you should be trying to find as many spots to value bet as possible even when it's thin and this is such a spot imo.

Gelford
06-24-2007, 07:39 AM
Grunch

I go either block block block on all three streets

or

Block block check/call in order to induce a call from a busted draw, but since board is fairly dry, I think block block block is my prefered course.

Why, value/potcontrol /images/graemlins/smile.gif

matt85
06-24-2007, 09:10 AM
Bet about $8, fold to any raise.

40/7 is calling you down with A7 etc so often here.

Standard.