25nl Calling shoves w/ QQ, yea or nay?

[bored]

BTN is 30/7; MP is 24/10

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $30.80
BB: $27.70
UTG: $25.60
MP: $39.75
Hero (CO): $26.50
BTN: $20.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, BTN calls $3.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $39.75</font>, Hero?

Call or fold?

[Vyse]

Nay. I rarely do it.

[Jose Stalin]

I really think this is AK but I'd rather not flip for a stack.

[Vyse]

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I really think this is AK but I'd rather not flip for a stack.

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Or be foolish enough to put his whole range on one hand

[Manchild84]

It's gonna be AK/AA/KK... you're dominated by two, and flipping with the other.

[bored]

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It's gonna be AK/AA/KK... you're dominated by two, and flipping with the other.

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This was my line of thinking as well... I just wanted to make sure this line of thinking was right.

And yes, I mucked.

[Manchild84]

Should add that if its a shorty, i cant click call fast enough.

[DickieBets]

I've been wondering about this myself.

How does the fact that there is a third caller in the fray affect the decision of fold/call ?

Martin

[monkover]

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I've been wondering about this myself.

How does the fact that there is a third caller in the fray affect the decision of fold/call ?

Martin

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in this case not too much b/c a 30/7 has a huge preflop calling range

[matrix]

cold calling button behind you and then MP shoving OTT of both I think points to MP having a hand.

This is very player dependant but in this spot I'd snap call if...

I have history of aggressive play vs this player, if I've ever noted this villain doing this kind of thing before. If MP and BTN are having a bit of a thing. If I think MP is tilting.

Vs some 24/10's I'd snapcall - vs a generic 24/10 it's a fold.

[BurnzDK]

Fold. You have a coinflip at best.

[z28dreams]

Also note that villain is playing w/ 160BB's.

While effective stacks are less, it's still an indicator that:
(a) he has a big hand
(b) he's made some money and is less likely to be an idiot

[ama0330]

Almost never.