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corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:22 AM
25NL FTP
100BB

Second orbit

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed)Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($59.10)
BB ($31.35)
Hero ($25)
MP ($10.95)
CO ($22.75)
Button ($31.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.05) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Turn: ($2.55) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($2.55) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $21.65 (All-In)</font>

Hero: I hope its not jt

Hero calls.

shoxbb6
06-23-2007, 07:28 AM
never folding this

Emperor Norton
06-23-2007, 07:28 AM
Yes. About that flop call...

corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:28 AM
Basically, can someone please run a stove for me on villains range?

KQ, 99, AQ, AK, A9, JT

corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:32 AM
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Yes. About that flop call...

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I am OOP, my check raise is not believable and he is giveing me odds to see one more card.

Genz
06-23-2007, 07:44 AM
I'm probably calling this, but this line looks pretty much how a donkey's line to play a flopped monster looks like... Minbet flop to see if you come along and to suck you in. Then slow it down on the turn and then BOOM!!! I have the nuts on the river.
These hands feel like someone as made them up...

corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:47 AM
Exactly my thinking and why I called. I expected JT, KQ or 99 with a margin for turned two pairs.

corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:48 AM
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These hands feel like someone as made them up...

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What hands?

Genz
06-23-2007, 07:49 AM
Hands where you hit your set somewhere towards the end and can't let it go anymore and are more or less bound to ship a stack to some idiot.

corsakh
06-23-2007, 07:52 AM
Well.. Thats why we are able to make money in this game, right? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Shizzle12345
06-23-2007, 08:26 AM
something liek A8 is possible too i think he would bet the turn if he has JT right?

corsakh
06-23-2007, 08:26 AM
No, on the turn he hit higher nuts /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Bonesy
06-23-2007, 09:50 AM
I'm seeing tons of posts now and experiencing it myself, where villains are making big river overbets. All I am seeing is the nuts or close to it. It's like an epidemic at these levels now. BTW, it's usually after a check/check on the turn.

Lego05
06-23-2007, 11:43 AM
Why no c-bet?

Lego05
06-23-2007, 11:46 AM
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Basically, can someone please run a stove for me on villains range?

KQ, 99, AQ, AK, A9, JT

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

55 games 0.005 secs 11,000 games/sec

Board: 9d Qc Ks Ac 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.455% 65.45% 00.00% 36 0.00 { 8c8d }
Hand 1: 34.545% 34.55% 00.00% 19 0.00 { 99, AQs+, A9s, KQs, JTs, AQo+, A9o, KQo, JTo }

Bowlboy
06-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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I'm seeing tons of posts now and experiencing it myself, where villains are making big river overbets. All I am seeing is the nuts or close to it. It's like an epidemic at these levels now. BTW, it's usually after a check/check on the turn.

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I see this often too. I think the reasoning behind these plays is villain slowplayed the hand in order to stack you but when that goes they decide to make a ridiculous overbet to make up for the value they lost on the flop and turn. Sorta can't blame them since so many non 2p2 /images/graemlins/smile.gif players will try to pick off a bluff for their stack with TPTK or something.

corsakh
06-24-2007, 04:43 AM
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Why no c-bet?

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I can hardly see a hand that did not hit this flop in some sort.