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Lego05
06-23-2007, 01:16 AM
Villian is 26.37/1.10/.9 (post-flop aggression) over 90 hands.

Is this standard? Or what are you doing here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($57.75)
MP ($129.90)
CO ($26.45)
Button ($58.25)
SB ($48)
Hero ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO folds, Button calls $2.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($7) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, Button calls $4.25.

Turn: ($15.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $42.5</font>, Hero???

dfkdfk
06-23-2007, 01:32 AM
looks like a call to me. Can't think of any reason not to.

Arp220
06-23-2007, 01:51 AM
lurking trips or a set maybe? Not sure what I'd do. Poss fold as I have this aversion to TPTK and all ins...

Shoe Lace
06-23-2007, 01:52 AM
Tough spot... his stats look like he's somewhat inline preflop. He isn't playing trash, but he's very passive.

How often was he calling raises preflop?

Only have 2 options on the turn. Shove or fold (given your stack size).

I wouldn't be surprised to see exactly 33/78/89/A8s here and nothing else vs this type of villain. I tend to play a little conservative, but when a player like this starts getting raise happy I do not like playing for stacks with TP-type hands.

A player like this isn't making moves with a lesser king, and probably not A3 (maybe clubs?). I can't imagine him doing this with 99-QQ either.

Btw I know people will say "why bother playing AKo then in the first place if you can't get your stack in?!?!". To tell you the truth I hate this hand OOP. It's my biggest loser (from going broke with TPTK).

yntm3
06-23-2007, 01:52 AM
.9 aggression. He doesn't know how to build pots so just pushes all in. I don't think he is bluffing and would lay it down after some thought.

Lego05
06-23-2007, 01:57 AM
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How often was he calling raises preflop?

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I don't know how to check this in Poker Tracker. Little help here? I did have this info available in my HUD popup menu at the time though.

Rollos
06-23-2007, 01:59 AM
I think we are good here like never. I fold. FYI I think calling raises from passives with top pair is one of the biggest leaks players make in uNL.

Shoe Lace
06-23-2007, 04:44 AM
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I did have this info available in my HUD popup menu at the time though.

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The only reason I ask is because 26 is not THAT tight. Something like K3 suited, K8s, 8Ts, and things of that nature become possible if he's been calling raises frequently.

This isn't a stat I pay very close attention to while playing, but I will start watching people who like to limp but will call raises, or people who call raises often when they have position on me.

It sure would be funny if you shoved here and villain flipped K3. I still stand by being dominated here much more often than not though.

GtrHtr
06-23-2007, 06:42 AM
did you consider pot control at least after the flop? I'm curious what you were thinking regarding this hand on all streets.

corsakh
06-23-2007, 06:44 AM
I fold. But I am a station /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Chomp
06-23-2007, 07:11 AM
I don't like cbet size. I go maybe $6 here.

I make one of those tank/time-out/fold moves here.

IMO villain has absolutely no reason whatsoever to play the hand like this with anything we beat. Is this tightish-passive player suddenly pushing a draw on a paired board? Is he suddenly making a move with KQ? Just can't see it.

bozzer
06-23-2007, 07:20 AM
bet more on flop.

i can't imagine what is beating us on the turn, but you probably have enough hands on the villain to fold.