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Ramana
06-22-2007, 04:26 PM
Villain doesn't raise with garbage, but I can't let go of my AK for such a silly raise. He is 25/11/1.5 and has a flop aggr of 8.

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Button ($21.99)
Hero ($21.81)
BB ($10.27)
UTG ($9.42)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, BB calls $0.40, Button folds.

Flop: ($1.10) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($4.10) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.02</font>, Hero ???


Villain is 27/13/1.5, but lost 3 stacks already, and has a low flop aggression.

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Button ($10.00)
SB ($34.56)
BB ($11.60)
Hero ($10.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($0.85) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.2</font>, Hero calls $0.60.

Turn: ($3.25) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $6.50
Vern
06-22-2007, 04:34 PM
Grunch:

How many hands for those stats?

Hand 1 I think I fold the turn, it looks like is trying to give straights and flushes odds to call, I am guessing JT or J9 here. He doesn't want you to go away. With overcards drawing to a non-nuts straight because of the paird board I give up on the turn.

Hand 2, A player you describe as having low flop aggression has check raised you, albiet minimum. I think I run away on the flop. The pot is small and the implied odds are not there for me to draw to a 7 (which could complete a straight given that board). I fold the flop.
ama0330
06-22-2007, 04:38 PM
First hand I snapcall the turn getting 5:1 given that both your overs could be live. Second hand standard.
Ramana
06-22-2007, 04:39 PM
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How many hands for those stats?

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1. 340
2. 110
BevillTheDevil
06-22-2007, 04:49 PM
EZ fold on both flops IMO. 2nd is AS bad since we have pos
sirklas
06-22-2007, 04:50 PM
Hand 1:

I would b/f the flop the flop. Any J or 9 beats you, unlikely that you improve on the turn.

Hand 2:

don`t bet here. check/call here is better IMO. As played fold after his raise.
Check_The_Nuts
06-22-2007, 04:50 PM
ama - thats a really dangerous board and your super-deep. Not sure I really like your line OOP. It'd work much better in position on first hand.

First hand I'm more likely to 3bet than just call cuz you just don't hit the turn often enough. If I was gunna donk-bluff the turn then I like your call, but I don't like calling, then check/calling the turn as much (Ace high isn't a very good hand at showdown rlly). I'd normally just fold to these and make notes. If they are doing it often its definitely light/as a bluff some of the time and you can take advantage of that obv.

I agree with guy above that 2nd hand is better than 1st.
deal
06-22-2007, 04:51 PM
Find out where they live. Go there and punch them. HARD.
Ramana
06-22-2007, 05:06 PM
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Find out where they live. Go there and punch them. HARD.

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there's just too many of them, and everyone has got his own dirty random tricks

I see that b/f would probably have been best in both situations, 3-betting or calling and donk-betting the turn is too tricky for this level imo. But if i just fold here, i kinda feel outplayed. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Check_The_Nuts
06-22-2007, 05:09 PM
Ram - I've only ever seen one player abuse the minraise in position versus me. And it became extremely obvious he was doing just that after a while.