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Wondercall
06-18-2007, 05:39 AM
Villain is solid tag. Should I dump this on the flop considering some of my outs may not help me?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Hero ($132)
Button ($50)
SB ($118.85)
BB ($81.30)
UTG ($90.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($20.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $19</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.50

PietM
06-18-2007, 06:17 AM
Who says you need outs? Wouldn't a tag (that puts you on a draw) play this about the same with AQ?

I'd call the turn bet and evaluate the river?

BenJay
06-18-2007, 06:34 AM
pietm says is true. call turn and see river, if heart be wary, he would play AQh, KQh this way for sure. 99 or TT option but u have to feel and judge the hand yourself in this situation. definatly would see the river and how SB acts there. c/c river?

Spechel EDD
06-18-2007, 07:27 AM
looks good. flop id call and see what he does on the turn. TAGS really dont get too crazy vs other players here. they also dont really full pot turns like that vs other regs without the goods.

im actually pretty surprised you did this because my notes on you say that you overplay two pair and overpairs quite often when obviously beat.

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pietm says is true. call turn and see river, if heart be wary, he would play AQh, KQh this way for sure. 99 or TT option but u have to feel and judge the hand yourself in this situation. definatly would see the river and how SB acts there. c/c river?

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AQhh from a solid tag would get 3-bet along with KQhh a majority of the time from someone opening on the button. the only reasonable hands i dont see 3-betting this are QTs and KJs flatcalling hoping to catch a big hand with stacks this deep.

BoerfSt
06-18-2007, 07:52 AM
First of all, I dont play this high..but it looks like we are winning here no ?Dont we see AQ as often as a set here?I dont say its a bad fold and I dont like getting in these spots either and will probably fold aswell.But it looks like villain is scared that we are gonna draw him out.And he would do this with a high pair or a set, plz correct me if i'm wrong, need to learn aswell! /images/graemlins/smile.gif