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UFGatorGuy
06-16-2007, 07:31 PM
This is completely readless, very first hand of a session in fact, so I don't know if that should alter how I play, but please tell me where I went wrong here.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

MP ($46.25)
CO ($68.80)
Button ($45.95)
SB ($31.40)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($25.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.60.

Flop: ($1.80) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4.30) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP calls $4.50.

River: ($18.30) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15.9 (All-In)</font>
jmgambler
06-16-2007, 07:33 PM
I cant really, I may have check/called the river *shrugs* but it really looks fine IMHO
vixticator
06-16-2007, 07:34 PM
Raise flop.
fjbourne
06-16-2007, 07:40 PM
check raise flop
lead turn
check call river

i think thats the line i take here.
UFGatorGuy
06-16-2007, 07:40 PM
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Raise flop.

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Really? What's your reasoning behind this? Raise based on the strength of my draw or on the fact that my opponent most likely missed the flop based on his preflop open, or a combination of both? Or something else entirely?
vixticator
06-16-2007, 07:43 PM
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Raise based on the strength of my draw or on the fact that my opponent most likely missed the flop based on his preflop open, or a combination of both?

[/ QUOTE ]All three. Probably just a c-bet by him, you don't have a made hand yet... it's just a good spot to raise.
UFGatorGuy
06-16-2007, 07:48 PM
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Raise based on the strength of my draw or on the fact that my opponent most likely missed the flop based on his preflop open, or a combination of both?

[/ QUOTE ]All three. Probably just a c-bet by him, you don't have a made hand yet... it's just a good spot to raise.

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What if I check raise to 4 on the flop and he repops it to 12-14? What if he pushes? I'd instamuck in both cases, but I'm curious to see what you guys think.
vixticator
06-16-2007, 07:51 PM
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What if I check raise to 4 on the flop and he repops it to 12-14? What if he pushes? I'd instamuck in both cases, but I'm curious to see what you guys think.

[/ QUOTE ]I'd call(the push)/push(the raise) if he did, not fold.
fjbourne
06-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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What if I check raise to 4 on the flop and he repops it to 12-14? What if he pushes? I'd instamuck in both cases, but I'm curious to see what you guys think.

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if he repops and we are 100bbs deep or lower, i think im folding. 80% of the time your looking at qq+ and i dont think we have odds to call. That said, if were commiting here a push is obv better then a call
jessyj07
06-16-2007, 07:57 PM
Close to a worse case scenerio...

37,620 games 0.005 secs 7,524,000 games/sec

Board: 5s 5c 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.289% 58.24% 00.05% 21909 19.50 { 99+, KsQs, 7s6s, 75s, 65s, 54s }
Hand 1: 41.711% 41.66% 00.05% 15672 19.50 { AsJs }

You're only a 58/42 dog + fold equity + money in the pot make this a c/r on flop and call of push if he pushes. Against a tighter preflop raising range...

30,690 games 0.062 secs 495,000 games/sec

Board: 5s 5c 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.601% 55.58% 00.02% 17058 6.00 { 99+, KsQs }
Hand 1: 44.399% 44.38% 00.02% 13620 6.00 { AsJs }