25NL - The (Min) Donk Bet

[calmB4storm]

Wtf should I do in these spots?
I've basically been treating the min-donk bet as a check, and then c-betting whenever I normally would. Sometimes I'll just call if I have some sort of draw. But is it ever wise to fold in spots like this? Thoughts?


Hand 1
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $25.70
BB: $10.85
Hero (UTG): $25.60
UTG+1: $15.15
CO: $25.60
Button: $25.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, BB folds
Uncalled bet of $1.50 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $2.60 ($0.10 Rake)


Hand 2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.10/$0.25 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $26.85
BB: $82.65
UTG: $16.10
Hero (CO): $49.15
BTN: $36.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.85) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, UTG calls $2.00

Turn: ($7.35) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, UTG folds
Uncalled bet of $5.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $7.35 ($0.35 Rake)

[CrustyFace]

Oh good, they are still doing this at 25NL. XD.

[vixticator]

This is almost always nothing or a cheap attempt to draw, sometimes bottom pair or the like. I've never seen it done with a big hand.

[CrustyFace]

I've never seen it done by anyone i have found to be a good player.

[Gullanian]

I actually sometimes bet 25c on the river if I want a cheap showdown or I'm on a draw, against 80% of players it actually works. When people do it to me though I raise them hard if I have anything.

[EMc]

I dont wanna give away too much info from cardrunners but Taylor made a good point in one of his videos that most villains at these stakes are looking to be all trappy tricky etc, and arent leading good hands. I raise these a lot, particularly on the flop.

[kewl_cph]

Don't fold

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.55
UTG+1: $54
CO: $28.40
Hero: $88.30
SB: $32.05
BB: $67.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($6.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($20.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $4</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($28.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $6</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $40.5
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed Qd 8d</font>

[HighSteaks]

[ QUOTE ]
I've basically been treating the min-donk bet as a check, and then c-betting whenever I normally would.



[/ QUOTE ]
Pretty accurate assesment- the odd time that it's a tell they so blatantly turn up the heat on the turn that you can easily get away from it.

[vixticator]

I think this play is weaker than a check. They fold to a raise 80%+ of the time and if called it's really obvious what they are drawing to, it's the weakest play possible other than folding.

[creamfillin]

I always raise flop min-donks. A double min-donk can sometimes mean a big hand if you raised him.

[vixticator]

Hmm, I just ran into a double barrel min donk....

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $19.24
BB: $1.21
UTG: $6.83
Hero (CO): $14.85
BTN: $11.52

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.20</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.42) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.05</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.55</font>, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.52) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.05</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.80</font>, BB calls all-in for $0.41
Uncalled bet of $0.34 returned to Hero

River: ($2.44) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $2.44 ($0.10 Rake)

BB had 9/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$1.21)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$1.13)