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ontiltsoon
06-16-2007, 06:21 AM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $71.90
UTG: $80.00
BTN: $50.25

Reads: <font color="blue">no reads on villain, just stats: 44/18/2 WSD 46%</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($4) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($9) 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
What line should hero take? C/C to induce bluffs or value bet?

PD: Now I've seen my turn bet is too small /images/graemlins/frown.gif

HighSteaks
06-16-2007, 06:28 AM
Turn bet looks ok to me, I'd just bet - around $4.

jk1986
06-16-2007, 06:30 AM
Not a bad spot to check to induce, since villain is pretty aggresive and has a missed draw a lot of the time here. Although I still like value betting more, probably betting 80% of the time here.

BevillTheDevil
06-16-2007, 06:31 AM
turn bet alittle more and river bet about 2/3 pot

jk1986
06-16-2007, 06:31 AM
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Turn bet looks ok to me, I'd just bet - around $4.

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On this board I'd bet pot or close to it on the turn. This kinda player isn't folding a draw so you might as well maximise his mistake

theflyingcow
06-16-2007, 06:33 AM
No, turn bet's fine. Maybe like $3, PTSB at most, but those usually look suspicious since it makes it real obvious you're trying to build a big pot. In an unopened pot like this, if villian's called to this point, and given his stats, my guess is that he has a marginal hand. I strongly discount flush draws since there's not much money in the pot to begin with. I bet $4-5 though I suspect villian will realize he's behind and fold here.

jk1986
06-16-2007, 06:36 AM
Honestly, you bet pot on the turn here and a 44/18/2 is instacalling with a flush draw. And why do you discount a FD, (because there is not much money in the pot to begin with? makes no sense) draws are the majority of his range here. Villain is aggressive (AF wrt VPIP) and has check called down.

ontiltsoon
06-16-2007, 06:42 AM
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $71.90
UTG: $80.00
BTN: $50.25

Reads: <font color="blue">no reads on villain, just stats: 44/18/2 WSD 46%</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($4) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($9) 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)


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<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $15.00</font>, Hero ???

jk1986
06-16-2007, 06:44 AM
cries then calls and gets shown QT

bluffbetter
06-16-2007, 06:52 AM
You only need to be ahead 23% of the time to breakeven on the call here, so against this loose player I call. This could easily be K9 here.

And you should bet $3-3.50 on the turn imo.


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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $71.90
UTG: $80.00
BTN: $50.25

Reads: <font color="blue">no reads on villain, just stats: 44/18/2 WSD 46%</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($4) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($9) 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)


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<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $15.00</font>, Hero ???

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ontiltsoon
06-16-2007, 06:56 AM
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And you should bet $3-3.50 on the turn imo.


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Yes I knoww /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Said so in first post

bluffbetter
06-16-2007, 06:57 AM
Sorry, I didn't see that bit.

Shizzle12345
06-16-2007, 07:33 AM
am i the only one who raises this preflop? Even tho without position.

humP
06-16-2007, 08:15 AM
Completing blind with limpers is fine, I don't think I raise KJo in this spot often.

And vs this kind of player I would be tempted to push the river for value, but since QT is part of his range too I just call. This is two pair with this kind of player often, like K9 or J9, wouldn't even close out of his range stuff like K5s etc. So call. And value bet the river, I like a larger turn bet too.