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Lahmshuffle
06-10-2007, 10:44 AM
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $64.55
BB: $49.10
UTG: $51.85
MP: $46.50
CO: $52.55
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $52.65</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($6.75) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.75</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $4.75

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($16.25) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $28.75</font>

Any suggestions...?
made flush with AJh, ATh, suited connex?
AK, KQ? (my Jh hearts has outs against those hands..)
Everything else is beaten by me...
Suggestions how to play this hand?

yteba
06-10-2007, 10:46 AM
I think he´s semibluffing with ace of hearts. I call.

Lahmshuffle
06-10-2007, 11:10 AM
any more ideas?

LMAO
06-10-2007, 11:21 AM
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fold pf.

ontiltsoon
06-10-2007, 11:33 AM
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fold pf.

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I think you have to raise the flop with TP and the second Nut Flush Draw.

As played I have no idea what to do /images/graemlins/frown.gif

LMAO
06-10-2007, 11:33 AM
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AK, KQ? (my Jh hearts has outs against those hands..) <font color="blue"> AK makes better trips and Ah better flush. KQ makes boat &gt; flush </font>
Everything else is beaten by me... <font color="blue"> Not much that you beat does this... unless villian is a complete donk </font>
Suggestions how to play this hand? <font color="red"> fold pf</font>

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prodonkey
06-10-2007, 11:49 AM
You're beating KT.. that's about it. Fold preflop and you won't be in this situation.

Peter Harris
06-10-2007, 11:55 AM
he's got you over a barrel here, son, I'd be surprised to see less than A/images/graemlins/heart.gifKx
edit - and superobv pf fold.

timtom
06-10-2007, 12:14 PM
kj is not a hand you should be cold calling preflop. Fair enough, you have position but there is just too high a probability that you are dominated. same applies with hands like k10, qj, even kq! that is unless you can fold top pair and wait for your monsters! I suggest you learn how to play draws well if your going to adopt this strategy! (if you dont already that is!! /images/graemlins/grin.gif)

With no stats on this guy you have to assume he is solid, his bet sizes certainly reflect solid play! Hand range? raising utg, preflop - i have him on AA-22, AK-AJ. Hes betting into two players postflop so unless he's a complete donk, which we've already discounted, you have contemplate foldin here. if not then raise and fold to a push/reraise. im folding on the turn all day long. i just cant see what you're ahead of here with this line!

looks like a /images/graemlins/heart.gifk, possibly qq to me

Vyse
06-10-2007, 02:45 PM
Don't cold call this PF if you can't play this post flop. Plz raise flop. Auto fold turn.

Lahmshuffle
06-10-2007, 03:00 PM
@ timtom...thx for the explanation, it seems obvious to fold here...but then there is only the Ah and the Th out there, QQ is my death of course...to cut a long story short...i flat called here (mistake i know) and was beaten by 6h7h with a Td to come...would you have put this guy on a made flush?
btw i still had 38 % chance to win on the turn, quite a few outs there...so i am not sure if the call was soooo bad after all...i believe i was not quite skilled enough to play it perfectly