NL50 AJ makes trips on the flop

[Triggerle]

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<font color="black">SB: $86.60</font>
BB: $46.70
<font color="black">UTG: $12.85</font>
MP: $49.25
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $50.00</font>
BTN: $52.70

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villian is 25/3</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $14.00</font>, Hero ??

What is my plan for this hand?

[MightyA6]

Depends, is he that aggressive guy who keeps betting if you call? Then call and let him bet the turn for you to reraise allin!

If he's quite passive, push it now, hope for AA, KK or something like that. I wouldn't be afraid of anything, really.

But then I play NL4, hah

[Triggerle]

He is not that aggressive. I figured his raise means one of these three things:
<ul type="square"> He has a jack
He has a jack beat
LOL AA ist the nuts
[/list]In any case it is now that I must decide if I am willing to play for stacks here.

[BoerfSt]

WHy wouldnt you play for stacks?
I call and put it all in on turn.

[Emperor Norton]

That's not much of a decision, when all of two hands beat you. I'm willing to go broke here 100% of the time.

If villain holds trips or a boat, it's pretty much inconceivable that he'll fold to any sort of aggression, so getting stacks in is no trouble, especially with position. However, if villain holds a weaker hand, such as an overplayed pocket pair, pushing here might telegraph the fact that you hold trips. And the pot is so big now that you could actually check behind on the turn and still have a reasonable hope of getting all-in on the river, having cleverly disguised the strength of your hand. But no matter what falls, be willing to get all of your chips in.

[Fiksdal]

If villain really has a PFR of 3, then this is an easy fold preflop. Your hand hasn't got enough potential to play for implied odds. Clearly villain has a very strong range here.

Villain 3bets the flop so it looks like he does indeed have a high pair. It doesn't really matter what you do, because people don't fold overpairs, especially not if it's AA. However, if you think villain might get away from it thinking you have a jack if you shove here, then just call. Let him make a large bet on the turn, and shove over that instead.

[Emperor Norton]

The villain in this hand is not the preflop raiser.

[Triggerle]

Yes, villian was not the pf raiser. I didn't re-raise the pf raiser because he was so short.

[raiden]

Try to get it in on the flop or on the turn. In this situation I think I prefer call flop, raise turn AI.
This is often JT/s+.If he has 33-&gt;cooler. Also, if behind you have three clean outs to the nuts which adds some ev.

[hoyasaxa]

this thread is stupid, this decision is not difficult, shove and get called by overpair.

[hoyasaxa]

misread the HH, but I still think villain shows up with a weaker jack enough to make this a shove.

[nuggzfan]

definitely definitely shove, no question

[Gustav]

Is it really that easy? I would probably go for the turn c/r here to widen his range a bit. If he has a J he's going broke regardless, and given how he played the flop I would say the same is true for overpairs. The only worry is an A scaring off KK or QQ.

edit: I would also raise a bit more on the flop the first time around. Any reasonable raise is repping the J anyway, might as well get some money in.

[mrw8419]

Please don't shove this flop its soooo dry. Just call his flop raise and get it in on the turn.

[Nottom]

I don't think it matters much what you do here as long as all the money goes in at some point. I'd probably call, but it seems he has a smaller J so pushing would be fine as well.

[members_only]

pump it. whether he has a jack/over pair or not, you're just as likely to scare him off by calling as by pushing.

i'd definitely go broke to 33 or J3 if you're wondering about that.

[Triggerle]

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($31.50) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $35.00</font>, SB calls $19.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($101.50) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $101.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a full house, Threes full of Jacks) and WON (+$48.50)
Hero had J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif and LOST (-$50.00)

[members_only]

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[mikechops]

Yeti theorm states that on a paired board the 3-bet is always a bluff. I'd call and get it in on the turn.

oops thats what you did!?!