50NL; AQ flops TPSK gets minraised on flop

[Lego05]

Villian is 50.54/5.38/.32 over 90 hands.

Look good?

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UTG ($66.20)
MP ($50.85)
CO ($69.20)
Hero ($51.70)
SB ($5.50)
BB ($38.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $2, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($7.75) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $11</font>, Hero calls $5.50.

Turn: ($29.75) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $19</font>, CO calls $19.

River: ($67.75) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $36.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $19.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $123.65

[vixticator]

Busto flush draw or a boat, probably a boat with that low AF. You are getting 7:2 though so this seems good.

[holdme]

no, it's a tough fold on the flop, but do not bet the turn.

[sightless]

i check turn behind.

[evazan]

I agree. I check the turn for pot control. After your turn bet you leave yourself no choice but to call his river raise.

[Lego05]

Why check turn behind? All you really have to worry about is AK, A8, and 55. Meanwhile there's still a diamond draw. And a lot of A's will call with the paired board don't you think?

[mrw8419]

I don't know whats up with all of the passive advice on the UNL boards lately but between everyone playing pot control with overpairs, and strong top pair hands its making me sick. Make money in this hand by value betting donk villains A10 that he wont lay down, don't keep the pot small just because you don't have the nuts.

[evazan]

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I don't know whats up with all of the passive advice on the UNL boards lately but between everyone playing pot control with overpairs, and strong top pair hands its making me sick. Make money in this hand by value betting donk villains A10 that he wont lay down, don't keep the pot small just because you don't have the nuts.

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So your going broke with TPSK here everytime?

[mrw8419]

On this board with the following action against this villain I sure would. People seem to really underestimate the donks ability to fold anything ever.

If I'm behind in this one particular time then so be it, but if I believe I am even slightly ahead of villains range you can guarantee I will be pushing that edge to the max. Its not about what exact hand the villain holds, but what range of hands that the particular villain will call/bet/fold. Just because you got your stack in way behind when villain turns over a set of 5's doesn't mean you overplayed your hand, if you believe villain has a set 20% of the time then he will be beating you one in five times you stack off. It's about the other 4 times you stack him that makes you money. Quit being results oriented that you lost a hand with tptk or an overpair and realize its about the equity involved with the hand.

[Bantam222]

villain had A8?

[ciro bonano]

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On this board with the following action against this villain I sure would. People seem to really underestimate the donks ability to fold anything ever.

[/ QUOTE ]You know our villain has an AF of .32?

[mrw8419]

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You know our villain has an AF of .32?

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It's only over 90 hands which isn't enough for AF stats to be accurate. I've also noticed that AF stats tend to be not be as accurate when dealing with 50/5's compared to lag or tag stats.

[Miyogi]

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no, it's a tough fold on the flop, but do not bet the turn.

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Against the nittiest of players maybe you can fold. But against a 50/5 I think a flush draw and lower A make up a big enough part of his range.

[tiger_hall]

i would probably fold to the min raise on the flop... i dont see this happening with a weaker ace... they would just call and assess turn

[Miyogi]

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i would probably fold to the min raise on the flop... i dont see this happening with a weaker ace... they would just call and assess turn

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I think that is giving way too much credit to someone who plays 50/5. I would say that most of the time that type of player isn't sure why they are doing anything. So sometimes they will check with a weaker ace here and sometimes they will minraise just to see what happens or because "lol i've got TP".

[Lego05]

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villain had A8?

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A5