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Shizzle12345
06-09-2007, 07:32 PM
40/2/1

Easy call isnt it? I call this 100% he has a boat or trips last 10 times i called this i stacked off against this opponent.
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $51.60</font>
BB: $125.18
UTG: $52.25
MP: $24.90
CO: $77.10
BTN: $18.09

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, BB calls $1.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, BB calls $3.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($10) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $54.50</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $70.50

jmgambler
06-09-2007, 07:38 PM
*shrugs* Maybe he has Trips,if he has F/h he is not raising you 9x your bet in position either way he priced me out of finding out, I fold too. But I am tempted................

NSchandler
06-09-2007, 07:38 PM
nh.

Shizzle12345
06-09-2007, 07:39 PM
I almost called, but i learned to follow my instinct, cos its almost always right. Except when im tilting and i wasnt here.

jmgambler
06-09-2007, 07:42 PM
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last 10 times i called this i stacked off against this opponent.

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Didnt see that....makes the fold easier then....

Shizzle12345
06-09-2007, 07:42 PM
didnt meant this opponent, meant opponent with same stats, and style.

TIGERsrm
06-09-2007, 07:43 PM
I fold and fast, I dont want to spend time convincing myself I might be ahead because these overbet turn shoves are so rarely anything but monsters.
You would need some strong info to call this IMO.

jmgambler
06-09-2007, 07:48 PM
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didnt meant this opponent, meant opponent with same stats, and style.

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last 10 times i called this i stacked off against this opponent.

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Didnt see that....makes the fold easier then....

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/images/graemlins/smile.gif .......... well next time say "last 10 times i called this i stacked off against similar opponents"

Warteen
06-09-2007, 07:48 PM
If the opponent has stacked you a bunch of times in a row, he's probably getting greedy and losing finesse when it comes to extracting value from you, figuring you'll call anything. This can work to your advantage, especially if you can make a fold like this. Looks like it was a good one.

mrw8419
06-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Dude I run a stack a donk on this board all the time and make $$$$$$ from it. That board is perfect to run a stack a donk against villain.

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Button ($20.70)
Hero ($51.55)
BB ($40.25)
UTG ($102.40)
MP ($65.05)
CO ($15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $60.25

renotime
06-09-2007, 09:26 PM
very weird spot.........the overbet scares the hell out of me....i would probably muck

Chomp
06-09-2007, 09:40 PM
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Dude I run a stack a donk on this board all the time and make $$$$$$ from it. That board is perfect to run a stack a donk against villain.

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I was also thinking about a turn check, but not to c/rai. I was thinking about c/c turn, block/vb lead river. This would be a value line against &lt;KK.

A turn c/rai move on the turn really needs a better hand than an overpair here IMO. We really only get called by better hands (although some may disagree with that against this donk-station) and fold out a lot of other crap that villain might try to float us with but also might call a river bet with (say a 88 or JQ or whatever).

So, c/c turn, then lead river for value, knowing we are never ever getting bluff raised off our hand. Fold to a raise.

I also think this way we control pot, and avoid being raised off it on turn if villain decides to get fruity on the scare card.

As played, I snap fold.


(I've had some, erm, you know, special cigarettes tonight, so maybe I'm way off here).