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Antinome
06-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $25.00
BB: $22.30
UTG: $9.55
CO: $25.70
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $40.70</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $4.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($8.25) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($8.25) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($18.25) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>

Is this too slow? Should I assume an unknown at 25NL is 3betting me light assuming my button range is wide? I haven't stolen once at this table yet.

nilesharding
06-09-2007, 07:56 PM
what could SB be 3-betting that beats you on the flop and is not firing, unless he's trying to slowplay something like KK or JJ on that dangerous flop and whiffed the CR. i think i fire on the flop ~pot, fire on the diamond turn (2nd nut draw) and call a river bet or value bet if checked to (although this line seems to be getting played out since i use it fairly often). i don't think he puts you on AK by the river in your situation, however, and you made a good bet. if you decided to take my line and were checkraised on the flop, i would be very cautious, but would probably see a turn. then i would get it all-in on the diamond.

mrw8419
06-09-2007, 08:29 PM
I usually bet the flop here, as played I bet river for 12.

Antinome
06-09-2007, 08:34 PM
I assigned him the range AJ+,TT+. What part of that range does he call a flop bet that I am ahead of? I suppose he could get dumb with AQ or QQ or AJ, but that's about it, right?

wikemang
06-09-2007, 09:06 PM
At 25NL, I would assume unknowns are NOT 3betting light. Betting the flop here is for information. As played you don't really know where you stand for sure against villain. I'd bet flop for at least $6, fire on the turn with the 2nd nut FD, and call a reasonable river bet/value bet 1/2-2/3 pot if checked to.

Antinome
06-09-2007, 09:40 PM
I'm opposed to betting for information. I don't care if I know where I stand if it narrows his range to hands I can't beat.

Waingro
06-09-2007, 11:40 PM
I think you played it fine. I´m not sure I´d be happy about getting it in on the flop vs an unknown so I like a flop check.

vixticator
06-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Pot flop, call push. Push turn.