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Jurollo
06-03-2007, 09:11 PM
There once was a boy named Randal
Who liked to play with his handle
He drank Capri Sun
It was oh, so much fun
And when it was over
He was done, done, done


Now to the hand. 2.7hours or so into Stars 2nd Chance. What are we calling this push by Randal with?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t30)
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: t12715
UTG+1: t4284
MP1: t4128
MP2: t13043
MP3: t43268
CO: t19570
WPThero: t8146
SB: t6130
BB: t5615

Pre-flop: (9 players) WPThero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in t19540</font>, WPThero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t18940 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: t1770

JSchnett
06-03-2007, 09:17 PM
the antes aren't big in the 2nd chance so his range shouldnt be extremely wide.
77+
AJ+

djk123
06-03-2007, 09:21 PM
I'm thinkin 77+,ATs+,AJo+

06-03-2007, 09:30 PM
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I'm thinkin 88+,AJo+

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djk123
06-03-2007, 09:39 PM
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I'm thinkin 88+,AJo+

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Maybe. I think it's really close betwen 88 and 77.

RandALLin
06-03-2007, 11:05 PM
had 55

LSgambler
06-03-2007, 11:38 PM
77+, AJ+

mlagoo
06-04-2007, 12:49 AM
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had 55

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66+

nath
06-04-2007, 12:57 AM
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had 55

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66+,76s,87s,98s,T8s+,J9s+,QTs+,JTo,T9o

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I was just gonna go in and throw in a couple as a joke, then I stoved the whole range. And you can probably do more if you factor in the pot odds and don't just stop at hands with 50% equity vs. 55. I found it interesting.

mlagoo
06-04-2007, 01:00 AM
i knew someone was gonna do that

NHFunkii
06-04-2007, 01:09 AM
dude you suck at limericks
also yeah I think his range is full of mediocre hands with no monsters, so I'd call pretty wide.

curtains
06-04-2007, 01:13 AM
I wouldn't fold 77. Antes arent that big, but they do change the blinds from 300-600 to approximately 400-800, which is a signifigant difference. I'd say he's pushing for about 8x the BB, given the average of the 3 players remaining, and that the maximum he can lose is 10x.

Against this range: 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+

you win 48% with 77, but ok someone behind can wake up with a big hand, so it's not really so great. I think he should be raising allin looser than that however. Pretty sure that pushing 33 is close to unexploitable, same for A8o and most suited aces, along with some hands like KTs, QJs etc etc.


So moral of story is that probably 77 is a call against a good aggressive player. Also 66 wins about 48.5% against the following range:

33+,A5s+,A8o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs

which is a pretty reasonable guesstimate of what he may have, except I'd throw in QTs and JTs. (which doesn't affect your equity very much anyway). So seems like a lot of guys here guessed pretty correctly with the 77+, AJo+, ATs+. Seems to be right on the money.



One other key factor is its probable that he would never play AA, KK or QQ like this. If you believe this to be the case, you can probably drop one pip and call with 66, but surprisingly that's pretty much the only hand that becomes a clear call if you eliminate the big pairs.

nath
06-04-2007, 01:24 AM
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dude you suck at limericks

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I even gave him "sandal"