Official JUNE uNL **'`MICROBREW THREAD`'** LC/NC this way... [Archive]

matrix

05-31-2007, 07:26 PM

June is here.

Post your Low Content/No Content stuff here

Feel free to rant, rave, whine, post random thoughts, lay down gauntlets, accept challenges, post pics/graphs/mspaints, jokes, whatever you want to share with uNL that isn't a Strategy post goes in here.

cuQa

05-31-2007, 07:28 PM

#1

PJo336

05-31-2007, 07:40 PM

.....its not june

dawade

05-31-2007, 07:52 PM

JUNE BREW!

GOGOGOGOGOGO!

I_HATE_TIHSKID

05-31-2007, 08:05 PM

Can some MOD please change my name?

Dikshit has been quiet nice to me the last months.

Gelford

05-31-2007, 08:23 PM

FR championship update

I took down first round 4-2 /images/graemlins/smile.gif

matrix

05-31-2007, 08:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]
.....its not june

[/ QUOTE ]

it is where I am sitting /images/graemlins/smile.gif

If it makes you feel happy consider this fermenting time for the fledgling Microbrew thread before the May thread gets locked down after the forum clock strikes midnight or something.

SirFelixCat

05-31-2007, 08:58 PM

Nice...

I'll be spending the first 10days of the month in Vegas playing the WSOP, Venetian Deep Stack, Binion's Classic and all the cash games I can fit in. Can I count that towards my graph at the end of the month? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

See all you bastages on the 11th!

Chomp

05-31-2007, 09:19 PM

Holy crapola, when you're running good poker is the easiest game in the world.

I haven't had a tricky decision all week, just dudes throwing their stacks at me, everyone folding to my cbets/3bets/bluffs, no big suckouts worth noting and I've made very few big mistakes. 4 weeks ago I was about to quit poker for good and was moaning on and on like a pathetic, whinging crybaby. Unbelievable.

That said, I am painfully aware that the next downswing is out there somewhere waiting for me, like those spooky horsemen dudes in Lord of the Rings. Mwahahaahahaaa.

But for now, bring it.

Gelford

05-31-2007, 09:22 PM

Yeah ... there is nothing like the poker swing induced mood swings /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ikaika

05-31-2007, 09:43 PM

I'm looking forward to June...I may be moving to either Orlando or San Diego at the end of the month for work(I love having choices like that /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).

WHAT SAY YOU? Orlando or San Diego? WHAT IT DO?!?!?!

PJo336

05-31-2007, 09:45 PM

san diego ftw!!!

fees

05-31-2007, 09:46 PM

this isn't june.. I want another shot at first..

kolotoure

05-31-2007, 10:31 PM

Kolo for mod

wildzer0

05-31-2007, 11:40 PM

My only hope for this month is that I get a lot of hands in. Managed 60k last month but june is looking crazy for me.

Ace0fSpades

05-31-2007, 11:44 PM

Hopefully June ends my worst downswing ever.

ybother

05-31-2007, 11:50 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Hopefully June ends my worst downswing ever.

[/ QUOTE ]

qfmft brother

you on ub under the same nanme?

yellowbluebus

06-01-2007, 12:51 AM

Is it possible to change one's SN on PokerStars?

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 12:55 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Is it possible to change one's SN on PokerStars?

[/ QUOTE ]

if ur SN is ur actual name u can request for security purposes

MaltbyStu

06-01-2007, 01:40 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is it possible to change one's SN on PokerStars?

[/ QUOTE ]

if ur SN is ur actual name u can request for security purposes

[/ QUOTE ]

I never understood why they won't let you change periodically?

I'm sure that Party let you change (bi)/annually?

The fish wouldn't care but I can see it being beneficial to the regs whilst not bothering Stars in the slightest.

Stu

EMc

06-01-2007, 02:15 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Kolo for mod

[/ QUOTE ]

While it would make my gmail account have a lot less mail, no.

derosnec

06-01-2007, 02:19 AM

chat from one of my 50nl tables (shortie ai pf with AJ against some guy's QQ)

subxzero: How was that a donk move
subxzero: with an M of 12, im moving in with AJ or higher

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 02:23 AM

can any1 link me to a page that has the people who stayed with H@££INGGOL and premier during the 2006 wsop?

Tickner

06-01-2007, 02:29 AM

Guys that I am playing HU......

I have money on UB now. I am ready to gogogogo.

Gelford if you want I can prob help you get monies from FTP->UB if you want. I think UB is the best venue for our HU match as well. (btw: $50nl 2 tables till $500?)

Fiksdal

06-01-2007, 03:09 AM

Why would you wanna play 2+2ers HU?

yimc17

06-01-2007, 03:11 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm looking forward to June...I may be moving to either Orlando or San Diego at the end of the month for work(I love having choices like that /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).

WHAT SAY YOU? Orlando or San Diego? WHAT IT DO?!?!?!

[/ QUOTE ]

San Diego, such an awesome city.

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 03:17 AM

orlando ftw

Lurker.

06-01-2007, 03:23 AM

hoping to get to 50NL by the fifteenth. Happy june fools.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 03:27 AM

20th

Fiksdal

06-01-2007, 03:31 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Nice...

I'll be spending the first 10days of the month in Vegas playing the WSOP, Venetian Deep Stack, Binion's Classic and all the cash games I can fit in. Can I count that towards my graph at the end of the month? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

See all you bastages on the 11th!

[/ QUOTE ]

Trip reports or ban.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 03:32 AM

[ QUOTE ]
chat from one of my 50nl tables (shortie ai pf with AJ against some guy's QQ)

subxzero: How was that a donk move
subxzero: with an M of 12, im moving in with AJ or higher

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

Fiksdal

06-01-2007, 03:33 AM

[ QUOTE ]
chat from one of my 50nl tables (shortie ai pf with AJ against some guy's QQ)

subxzero: How was that a donk move
subxzero: with an M of 12, im moving in with AJ or higher

[/ QUOTE ]

hahaha great

Thuey11

06-01-2007, 04:07 AM

25nl is easy
http://www.photoflock.com/get/p465fd3922ac7b.jpg (http://www.photoflock.com/display/p465fd3922ac7b)

thac

06-01-2007, 04:29 AM

All -

After my short stay at nl100 and 200, I'm dropping back to nl50. I'm not a good player at the moment.

SirFelixCat

06-01-2007, 04:33 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Nice...

I'll be spending the first 10days of the month in Vegas playing the WSOP, Venetian Deep Stack, Binion's Classic and all the cash games I can fit in. Can I count that towards my graph at the end of the month? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

See all you bastages on the 11th!

[/ QUOTE ]

Trip reports or ban.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, you can bet your a$$ there will be one. It's funny, there are 5 2p2'ers in the house, although only 2 of us are regular posters, yet we have a 7page thread on the other forum that we all frequent. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Keys Myaths has a thread that he was doing in the B&M forum. I'm going to post nightly on the other forum, but I'll post an epic TR when I return here.

That said, if any of you are in Vegas the next 10 days and see a youngish looking fella with LONG hair and a goatee, possibly wearing a Felix the Cat T or hat, playing ahything from 1/2 up thru 5/10 NL, gimme a sup bro and we'll have a drink. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

In the mean time, you bastages enjoy grinding away at your lives while we're out living the dream! /images/graemlins/wink.gif

/images/graemlins/spade.gif /images/graemlins/diamond.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif

corsakh

06-01-2007, 04:35 AM

Yep. A good player would move up to 400NL to get some moneys back.

thac

06-01-2007, 04:40 AM

To prove how bad I suck/get in bad spots:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $71.65
BB: $50.90
UTG: $172.50
Hero (BTN): $120.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: ($1.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $3.00, BB folds, UTG raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $20.00, UTG calls $14.50

Turn: ($41.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($41.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG bets $41.75

DIEEEEEE.

edit - I'm going to bed. June is starting out bad.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1789/junebf5.jpg

I might grind 50nl all month. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

ama0330

06-01-2007, 04:42 AM

Raise preflop, flat call or fold the 4bet. But you knew that.

kaz2107

06-01-2007, 04:52 AM

2 completely GAY hands to start tha month. WTF?!?!?!?!?!

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $128.35
Hero: $572
CO: $449.33
Button: $469.65
SB: $15.62
BB: $102.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, Hero raises to $10, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($33, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $24, CO calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($81, 2 players)
Hero bets $56, CO calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($193, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $125, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $125 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $193

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $91.20
Button: $69.55
Hero: $650.55
BB: $386

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG raises to $6, Button calls, Hero raises to $32, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($98, 3 players)
Hero bets $67, UTG folds, Button calls all-in $37.55.
Uncalled bets: $29.45 returned to Hero.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($173.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $173.1)

River: K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($173.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $173.1)

Results:
Final pot: $173.1
Hero Shows Jh Jc
Button Shows 10h Qh

ama0330

06-01-2007, 04:54 AM

Hand one open shove turn? He never folds a Q, and he'll probably call you off with a K too...

kaz2107

06-01-2007, 04:56 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Hand one open shove turn? He never folds a Q, and he'll probably call you off with a K too...

[/ QUOTE ]villian is a decent reg. and we r more then 200bbs deep. my thinkin is a good part of his range is KT+ and pps. shoving fold those out almost always. prolly should bet more tho on turn. blah oww well. bed tyme i guess.

tomorow i FIANLLY get to pick up a [censored] computer desk. i have been waitin for like 3ish weeks for tha damn thing. ive been playin on this wobbly ass folding table that is 100% unnacceptable (altho i will insta change it if i get tha new desk and begin to run crappy /images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Chomp

06-01-2007, 05:58 AM

[ QUOTE ]
All -

After my short stay at nl100 and 200, I'm dropping back to nl50. I'm not a good player at the moment.

[/ QUOTE ]

thac, could you share some more details? Sorry, I know it's probably painful, but it might help rest of us out.

Especially, how you were running at 50 before moving up (# of hands & wr).

Cheers.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:18 AM

kaz, wobbly folding tables are seriously unballer.

tehDiceman

06-01-2007, 07:33 AM

i just got stacked on two different tables at the same time. one hand i played like trash, the other i dont think there is any way for me to get away. will post them both shortly.

brag: almost made it back to breakeven by totally owning the tables for the next 40 minutes.

monkeymaps

06-01-2007, 08:34 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm looking forward to June...I may be moving to either Orlando or San Diego at the end of the month for work(I love having choices like that /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).

WHAT SAY YOU? Orlando or San Diego? WHAT IT DO?!?!?!

[/ QUOTE ]

San Diego and its not even close

tehDiceman

06-01-2007, 08:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm looking forward to June...I may be moving to either Orlando or San Diego at the end of the month for work(I love having choices like that /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).

WHAT SAY YOU? Orlando or San Diego? WHAT IT DO?!?!?!

[/ QUOTE ]

San Diego and its not even close

[/ QUOTE ]

Phoenix? /images/graemlins/wink.gif i hate cali. FL is too touristic for me.

monkeymaps

06-01-2007, 09:04 AM

orlando has disney and old people
San diego has beahes and women you decide lol

Never been to pheonix

bozzer

06-01-2007, 09:16 AM

how do i get PAHUD to work with resized FT tables?

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 09:52 AM

[ QUOTE ]
how do i get PAHUD to work with resized FT tables?

[/ QUOTE ]

1) do u have latest beta version?
2) turn on flicker-free drawing for FT

creamfillin

06-01-2007, 10:04 AM

my June is starting out GOOT, so much for getting rolled for 25NL

runner,runner full house, who would have known?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($6.65)
Button ($9.85)
Hero ($13.15)
BB ($4.15)
UTG ($6.40)
MP ($12.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.3, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.70) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.4, Hero raises to $1.3, MP calls $0.90.

Turn: ($3.30) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50.

River: ($8.30) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9.05 (All-In), MP calls $8.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $26.10

Results in white below: 
Hero has 6d 8d (flush, nine high).
MP has 4c 9c (full house, fours full of nines).
Outcome: MP wins $25.80. Hero wins $0.30. 

pair the board pair the board pair the board pair the board..[censored]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($6.40)
UTG ($19.65)
MP ($38.40)
CO ($7)
Button ($25.90)
Hero ($12.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.30) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.3, BB calls $0.30, UTG raises to $0.6, Hero raises to $2.5, BB raises to $6.3, UTG calls $5.70, Hero raises to $14.9, UTG calls $6.40.

Turn: ($34.20) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)

River: ($34.20) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)

Final Pot: $34.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has 3h 3c (three of a kind, threes).
BB has Js 9s (flush, jack high).
UTG has 2s 5s (flush, ten high).
Outcome: BB wins $34.20.

bozzer

06-01-2007, 10:04 AM

1) no, i just found the latest beta
2) it's on

will i have to reregister to use the beta?

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 10:14 AM

[ QUOTE ]
1) no, i just found the latest beta
2) it's on

will i have to reregister to use the beta?

[/ QUOTE ]

not if u just install over top of the version u currently have. basically, don't uninstall PAHUD and then install the beta over top of it.

thac

06-01-2007, 10:41 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
All -

After my short stay at nl100 and 200, I'm dropping back to nl50. I'm not a good player at the moment.

[/ QUOTE ]

thac, could you share some more details? Sorry, I know it's probably painful, but it might help rest of us out.

Especially, how you were running at 50 before moving up (# of hands & wr).

Cheers.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not sure the amount of hands, but I ran around 5.5 bb/100 in March at nl50 (20k hands?)

The beginning of April was pretty cool, I was at like 5 bb/100 for the first 2 weeks at nl100, and moved up to nl200 one night. Won a few buyins, and then had a -7.5 buyin session in like 1200 hands.

I've forgotten how to win after that.

EMc

06-01-2007, 10:45 AM

What makes 100nl harder:

a. The money is starting to become real (100 bucks is a lot of money)
b. It flows easier and faster
c. There are more aggro players there that require adjustments

My suggestion to moving up is always to nit up (set mine esstentially) FR tables to adjust yourslef to the avg pot size and work from there.

21SuicideKing21

06-01-2007, 10:46 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm looking forward to June...I may be moving to either Orlando or San Diego at the end of the month for work(I love having choices like that /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).

WHAT SAY YOU? Orlando or San Diego? WHAT IT DO?!?!?!

[/ QUOTE ]

Sunny San Diego. Plus from what I've experienced better casinos too.

thac

06-01-2007, 11:00 AM

[ QUOTE ]
What makes 100nl harder:

a. The money is starting to become real (100 bucks is a lot of money)
b. It flows easier and faster
c. There are more aggro players there that require adjustments

My suggestion to moving up is always to nit up (set mine esstentially) FR tables to adjust yourslef to the avg pot size and work from there.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree completely.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 11:06 AM

[ QUOTE ]
What makes 100nl harder:

a. The money is starting to become real (100 bucks is a lot of money)
b. It flows easier and faster
c. There are more aggro players there that require adjustments

My suggestion to moving up is always to nit up (set mine esstentially) FR tables to adjust yourslef to the avg pot size and work from there.

[/ QUOTE ]

True, but you also have to accept that nitting up 100nl is nowhere as profitable as 50nl and below because there are so many more players who will exploit you and are less exploitable themselves.

What this basically means is that 100nl is where you have to start seeing the chips as chips and NOT money, because timid play will get you raped whereas putting constant pressure on your opponents will get you paid. You can't pressure your opponents if you freeze up every time you need to make dicey turn/river bets when you deem them to be +EV.

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:07 AM

I'm pretty sure that people having trouble moving from $50nl to $100nl just have to learn to deal with the swings properly. Every time you move up, the swings become more than double the previous level due to better players on average and double the stakes.

If you are consistently beating $50nl, you shouldn't have too much trouble at $100nl.

Ask me whatever questions you want about $100nl and the transition from $50nl. I've been there too.

Some encouragement:

$100nl since April 1st...

http://www.pkrimages.com/uploads/images/phpyFczTu1180710386.jpg

ama0330

06-01-2007, 11:09 AM

tick,

how many tables did you start with and what was your br when you started? also, how many hands did you play below 50nl and what was your winrate? this doesnt include your 600nl madness either /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:10 AM

ama0330, players at $100nl are better on average, but not good enough to "exploit" you for being nitty. They don't exploit. They aren't very good compared to winning players. When I sit at a table, I assume everyone is a moron, until proven otherwise, and you should too.

BUT I do agree about not playing timid. That's a recipe to get run over and lose.

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
tick,

how many tables did you start with and what was your br when you started? also, how many hands did you play below 50nl and what was your winrate? this doesnt include your 600nl madness either /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Starting BR was in Janurary last year - $500. Thats all I had to my name and I was in debt over $2k in credit cards. My blog chroicles the whole journey and can be found in my profile.

I started off 4 tabling when I got serious, and slowly built up 1 table at a time - I usually play 9-12 tables now, of 6max nl 100 or 200.

Below $50nl, not much. I started NL june 1st last year with $1k and had a $15k BR by mid july. Then lost almost all of it at $600nl+. Then started over. Etc etc. But overall prob like 45-50k hands and ill guestimate my winrate was aroudn 4ptbb/100.

SirFelixCat

06-01-2007, 11:16 AM

So what you guys have planned for today? Grinding uNL?

Yeah, I'm heading to the airport to head to Vegas :snicker: /images/graemlins/smile.gif

:bye:

thac

06-01-2007, 11:17 AM

[ QUOTE ]
So what you guys have planned for today? Grinding uNL?

Yeah, I'm heading to the airport to head to Vegas :snicker: /images/graemlins/smile.gif

:bye:

[/ QUOTE ]

So long you scum. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Worm75

06-01-2007, 11:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
orlando has disney and old people
San diego has beahes and women you decide lol

Never been to pheonix

[/ QUOTE ]

And if you like cali or florida you will never want to go!! Not a whole lot of redeeming features, with the exception of ASU and the bar scene around campus, pretty much imagine living in the desert year round and that is your life. Only a couple months a year that it is nice, other than that it is extremely hot, or pouring down rain like a monsooon!

But then I might be biased, because while I spent a lot of time out there for work, it was for work and I pretty much hated every minute of it, for reasons doing with work, not with Phoenix.

Never been to Orlando, but I'm about 1.5 hrs away from San Diego, and for my money if there is an ideal place to live, it is pretty much it. Weather is basically 75 yr round, plenty to do, and the ocean is never far awy.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 11:26 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
tick,

how many tables did you start with and what was your br when you started? also, how many hands did you play below 50nl and what was your winrate? this doesnt include your 600nl madness either /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Starting BR was in Janurary last year - $500. Thats all I had to my name and I was in debt over $2k in credit cards. My blog chroicles the whole journey and can be found in my profile.

I started off 4 tabling when I got serious, and slowly built up 1 table at a time - I usually play 9-12 tables now, of 6max nl 100 or 200.

Below $50nl, not much. I started NL june 1st last year with $1k and had a $15k BR by mid july. Then lost almost all of it at $600nl+. Then started over. Etc etc. But overall prob like 45-50k hands and ill guestimate my winrate was aroudn 4ptbb/100.

[/ QUOTE ]

in that graph, i see a couple 7-8bi swings at the beginning. is this variance, loose play, too willing to play for stacks, something else?

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:47 AM

at the start of that graph I am playing a 32/27/4 style. towards the very end I am playing about 19/16. Notice a better winrate with a lot less variance?

ama0330

06-01-2007, 11:51 AM

i do indeed. thats what i was wondering. i play similar stats and produce similar graphs.

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:52 AM

through lonnnnnggggggggg experience Ive determined that very tight and agressive play = teh nuts. Now if only I listened to that when I first started...

ama0330

06-01-2007, 11:55 AM

tick, is a push on the turn here really bad? if so, why? nobody wanted to answer me in SSNL =( I feel like this is some type of heart/straight draw or hearts + pair so often, but maybe I dont get 100nl?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10610507 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=ssplnlpoker&Number=106105 07&Searchpage=1&Main=10573371&Words=+ama0330&topic =&Search=true#Post10610507)

danny8

06-01-2007, 11:55 AM

not really worth a thread... but i've decided im crap at playing small pots.

dont know anything about sb - should i just fold the turn? call the river? i'd prolly call with AT, but as it stands i dont really beat any Ts... should i just call down since its BvB? and 3pair surely cant lose!!

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.40
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $50.28
BTN: $19.33

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
2 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $3.00, Hero folds

Pot Size: $8.00

Tickner

06-01-2007, 11:57 AM

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tick, is a push on the turn here really bad? if so, why? nobody wanted to answer me in SSNL =( I feel like this is some type of heart/straight draw or hearts + pair so often, but maybe I dont get 100nl?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10610507 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=ssplnlpoker&Number=106105 07&Searchpage=1&Main=10573371&Words=+ama0330&topic =&Search=true#Post10610507)

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He check called the flop and then check/raised the turn. What do you put him on that we beat? Furthermore, what do you put him on that we beat AND he calls a push?

Pushing is bad IMO. I like a fold here.

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 12:06 PM

[ QUOTE ]
through lonnnnnggggggggg experience Ive determined that very tight and agressive play = teh nuts. Now if only I listened to that when I first started...

[/ QUOTE ]

qft and it's really unnecessary to play semi-lag/lag in uNL. Good experience, but definitely unnecessary variance, especially at NL10 and below.

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 12:06 PM

HOW FKING BAD can one run. This is happening for nearly 50k hands now, these happened last 2k hands, and ofc the standard, 'everyone folding to my aces':
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $125.95
UTG: $23.75
MP: $27.00
CO: $33.10
BTN: $21.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.00

Flop: ($6.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises all-in to $18.45, Hero calls $13.45

Turn: ($43.40) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($43.40) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $43.40 ($2.15 Rake)

BTN had Q/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$20.05)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pairs, Kings and Queens) and LOST (-$21.20)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $42.55
Hero (BB): $40.30
UTG: $24.55
CO: $48.85
BTN: $42.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BTN folds, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $3.75, Hero raises to $14.25, SB raises all-in to $40.30, Hero calls all-in for $23.80
Uncalled bet of $2.25 returned to SB

Pot Size: $81.35 ($2 Rake)

SB had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (a full house, Sevens full of Threes) and WON (+$39.05)
Hero had 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (a full house, Fives full of Threes) and LOST (-$40.30)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $30.05
BB: $24.43
UTG: $32.74
BTN: $26.47

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG raises to $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, BB folds, UTG raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($6.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($6.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.00, UTG raises to $6.00, Hero calls $3.00

Pot Size: $18.50 ($1.40 Rake)

UTG had 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a full house, Fours full of Queens) and WON (+$8.10)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and LOST (-$9.00)

(my paranoid mind told me somthing was not right, this dude rarely raises the turn)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.75
Hero (BB): $43.78
UTG: $7.24
MP: $1.63
CO: $5.00
BTN: $36.14

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($2.60) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.00, UTG folds, BTN calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.60) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $10.00, Hero calls $5.00

River: ($26.60) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Pot Size: $32.60 ($1.60 Rake)

BTN had Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$15.25)
Hero had 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Fours) and LOST (-$15.75)

EMc

06-01-2007, 12:07 PM

Im golfing,

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 12:09 PM

Post deleted by EMcWilliams

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 12:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So I just bought a share of Shaun Deeb's action in the WSOP this summer. It was $750 and I get 1% of his total action over 22 events hes going to try and play. I am looking to sell shares of this share in order to minimize risk and give others a good opportunity. I am selling it in tenths for 75$ each. I have sold 5 already and need to sell 5 more ASAP. Contact me here, or AIM at ponnasm522, or MSN ponnasm522@hotmail.com. Need to sell by tonight at midnight.

[/ QUOTE ]

so we get 0.1% of his winnings?

ama0330

06-01-2007, 12:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So I just bought a share of Shaun Deeb's action in the WSOP this summer. It was $750 and I get 1% of his total action over 22 events hes going to try and play. I am looking to sell shares of this share in order to minimize risk and give others a good opportunity. I am selling it in tenths for 75$ each. I have sold 5 already and need to sell 5 more ASAP. Contact me here, or AIM at ponnasm522, or MSN ponnasm522@hotmail.com. Need to sell by tonight at midnight.

[/ QUOTE ]

uh... scam?

yellowbluebus

06-01-2007, 12:12 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Is it possible to change one's SN on PokerStars?

[/ QUOTE ]

if ur SN is ur actual name u can request for security purposes

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I tried...

Hello yellowbluebus,

Thank you for your email.

The reason we do not permit user ID changes is partially technological
and partially psychological, and partially for security.

From the database/programming perspective, it is not a trivial
change. Your user ID isn't stored in the hands -- just an internal
user number. When you request a hand history, it looks up your user
ID and inserts it where it should go. It would be a bad thing to have
previously requested histories say that "finesse914" was in seat 3 of
a particular hand, while the same hand history requested after a user
ID change says "angelfins" was in seat 3.

That would cause users who noted the apparent discrepancy to question
the accuracy of our database, which we cannot permit. Thus, same-
account user ID changes are technologically impossible without
extensive changes to the database software.

Some have pointed out that it would be trivial to just avoid all the
above and let players close one account to open another. We cannot
allow this for security reasons. All of the things that make your
account "yours" are lost if you jump to another account. All of your
hand histories, your financial transactions, your chat.... everything
is left behind and cannot be moved to your new account. For financial
security, much of this data is mandatory and cannot be considered
dispensable.

Finally, from the psychological side, in face-to-face poker you can
remember a person by their appearance, their mannerisms, or their
name. Chris Moneymaker will always be recognized as himself when he
enters a card room. Online, all those things are gone. The only
thing a player has to identify you as an opponent at the table is your
user ID, and your image (which we do permit to be changed more
easily). It would be unfair to other players to "get to know" your
playing style (taking notes, etc), and then permit you to close the
account in favor of a different user ID. To keep all players on the
same playing field, we limit players to one account per person, and no
user ID changes.

We wish you the best of luck playing here on PokerStars under your
current user ID.

Regards,

Paula

ama0330

06-01-2007, 12:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So I just bought a share of Shaun Deeb's action in the WSOP this summer. It was $750 and I get 1% of his total action over 22 events hes going to try and play. I am looking to sell shares of this share in order to minimize risk and give others a good opportunity. I am selling it in tenths for 75$ each. I have sold 5 already and need to sell 5 more ASAP. Contact me here, or AIM at ponnasm522, or MSN ponnasm522@hotmail.com. Need to sell by tonight at midnight.

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actually, thinking more about this, its totally laughable. i would be astonished if anyone were dumb enough to give you any money.

ValueKill

06-01-2007, 12:26 PM

Great start to June!!

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/593/100nltm7.jpg

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 12:27 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
So I just bought a share of Shaun Deeb's action in the WSOP this summer. It was $750 and I get 1% of his total action over 22 events hes going to try and play. I am looking to sell shares of this share in order to minimize risk and give others a good opportunity. I am selling it in tenths for 75$ each. I have sold 5 already and need to sell 5 more ASAP. Contact me here, or AIM at ponnasm522, or MSN ponnasm522@hotmail.com. Need to sell by tonight at midnight.

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actually, thinking more about this, its totally laughable. i would be astonished if anyone were dumb enough to give you any money.

[/ QUOTE ]

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 12:35 PM

Furthermore hes an active member here at 2+2 and totally legit. just read his title. durrrr. anyhow offer is available to anyone besides that donkey.

Tickner

06-01-2007, 12:41 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So I just bought a share of Shaun Deeb's action in the WSOP this summer. It was $750 and I get 1% of his total action over 22 events hes going to try and play. I am looking to sell shares of this share in order to minimize risk and give others a good opportunity. I am selling it in tenths for 75$ each. I have sold 5 already and need to sell 5 more ASAP. Contact me here, or AIM at ponnasm522, or MSN ponnasm522@hotmail.com. Need to sell by tonight at midnight.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think by selling all his shares you are "minimizing" your risk. You are totally avoiding it by selling your whole investment. Obv a scam, plz stop.

Tickner

06-01-2007, 12:42 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
through lonnnnnggggggggg experience Ive determined that very tight and agressive play = teh nuts. Now if only I listened to that when I first started...

[/ QUOTE ]

qft and it's really unnecessary to play semi-lag/lag in uNL. Good experience, but definitely unnecessary variance, especially at NL10 and below.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I totally agree that playing LAG for a few sessions is a good learning experience - and is worth it - but dont try it long term.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 12:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Furthermore hes an active member here at 2+2 and totally legit. just read his title. durrrr. anyhow offer is available to anyone besides that donkey.

[/ QUOTE ]

O NO I TAKE IT ALL BACK

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 12:50 PM

lolz....risking $75 to win 1k if he were to cash for a million

SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 12:50 PM

Obv you don't know how to process information correctly Tickner so let me break it down for you. I am not selling shares for Shaun Deeb. I am selling fractions of a share that I bought. That regardless of who buys what I will have a fraction of still. I would not rush into something like this without thinking it through. Basically it came down to Shaun Deeb is an active member of the 2+2 community, see MTT Strategy for his posts, he is #1 on PS leaderboard so far this year, with over 150k in cahses these 5 months, and since I am not old enough to play in Vegas this is the closest I can get, + I am sure Shaun is much better than I at donkaments. Now maybe I am wrong, and you are competent at life and just misread. But please do not stick in your two cents when it is not justified.
Thanks
FYI-4 shares for 75$ each left.

kazana

06-01-2007, 01:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
through lonnnnnggggggggg experience Ive determined that very tight and agressive play = teh nuts. Now if only I listened to that when I first started...

[/ QUOTE ]

qft and it's really unnecessary to play semi-lag/lag in uNL. Good experience, but definitely unnecessary variance, especially at NL10 and below.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I totally agree that playing LAG for a few sessions is a good learning experience - and is worth it - but dont try it long term.

[/ QUOTE ]
wtf, just a few weeks back there was an angry mob here chasing me with pitchforks and burning torches for saying that I don't think LAG is the best style for uNL. I wonder where those people are now. Busto?

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:06 PM

goat beard, you are saying you have 1% of his action for $750.

you are looking to sell ten shares of 0.1% of his action for $75.

$75 * 10 = $750.

what are we missing?

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 01:08 PM

You aren't missing anything. What do you think your'e missing.

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:09 PM

define tag, semi-lag and lag in vpip/pfr terms please.

I know that not the whole deal, but go on...

FruityPro ( a SSNL player/CR pro) said 20/15 was semi-lag the other day, I was WTF??

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:11 PM

we're missing how if you're selling 10 shares of $75 each how this is a legitimate sell and not you trying to scam or offload a bad invesment.

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 01:11 PM

20-30 is semi lag? Mine is 26

kazana

06-01-2007, 01:11 PM

Sounds like a scam.
Why would you go through the trouble of buying a piece of his action just to sell it off for no profit?

You either bought it for less than 750, or you didn't buy anything at all (my guess is that one, btw). Or you're just kinda dumb to sell off everyone of your supposedly "big tickets to wealth"

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:13 PM

also lol 'they have to go by midnight'

kazana

06-01-2007, 01:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
define tag, semi-lag and lag in vpip/pfr terms please.

I know that not the whole deal, but go on...

FruityPro ( a SSNL player/CR pro) said 20/15 was semi-lag the other day, I was WTF??

[/ QUOTE ]
lol? I've been called a nit for running 20/15ish, and now I'm supposed to be a semi-LAG??
These boards never seize to confuse me.

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:15 PM

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Yeah, I'm heading to the airport to head to Vegas :snicker: /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

gl Felix and Keys. Keep us updated.

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 01:16 PM

Im keeping 2/10 of it to myself. Ive sold 4/10 already to others. I cant prove I am not a scammer by saying TRUST ME I NEVA LIE, Im just trying to again minimize my risk, and give other people the opportunity. I can foward the email received from Shaun to anyone interested.

creamfillin

06-01-2007, 01:30 PM

I can vouch for goat /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

thac

06-01-2007, 01:35 PM

good luck nl50 at ftp, i'll be owning.

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 01:37 PM

They have to go by midnight because the first event of the 22 he is scheduled to play starts tomorow sir.

barryc83

06-01-2007, 01:40 PM

kolo you in argentina yet???

bozzer

06-01-2007, 01:41 PM

is thac's SN outed?

apologies goat_beard, this does sound legit, but I think you can excuse us for being suspicious when you said you were selling 100% of the action you had.

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 01:43 PM

goat...no I don't want action

TAG is like 14/xx to 20/xx as long as xx is with 1/2 of VPIP (otherwise u be a limping pussy)

sLAG would be like 20-25VPIP/17+ PFR

LAG 25+VPIP/20+ PFR

Those are just my numbers for how I categorize players at uNL. These numbers aren't really pertinent at SSNL and especially MSNL/HSNL as the norm is like 25/20

goat_beard

06-01-2007, 01:47 PM

np np, again i have 4 shares left to sell, any1 interested PM me or AIM/MSN me by midnight tonight, if not I guess i got 6/10 of 1% woot

wildzer0

06-01-2007, 01:49 PM

We're micro limit players, how about 75 cents for .001% /images/graemlins/smile.gif

thac

06-01-2007, 02:14 PM

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is thac's SN outed?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe so..

Tickner

06-01-2007, 02:34 PM

I wouldnt want to invest even $75 into somebody dumb enough to sell 1% of their TOTAL ACTION ON 22 EVENTS for $750. Whats the total buyin of the 22 events?

ama0330

06-01-2007, 02:37 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
is thac's SN outed?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe so..

[/ QUOTE ]

wouldnt it be in that vid you made?

thac

06-01-2007, 02:51 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
is thac's SN outed?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe so..

[/ QUOTE ]

wouldnt it be in that vid you made?

[/ QUOTE ]

Mayyyybe

Gelford

06-01-2007, 02:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
is thac's SN outed?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't believe so..

[/ QUOTE ]

wouldnt it be in that vid you made?

[/ QUOTE ]

Mayyyybe

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh Noez ... another rickroll (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5628733099857233320)

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 03:07 PM

TEACH ME TEACH ME HOW TO RUN HOT, although 2nd was kinda played badly, but still.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $24.30
BB: $27.78
UTG: $25.00
BTN: $6.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG checks, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.40, BB calls $2.40, UTG folds

Turn: ($7.80) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

River: ($9.80) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

Pot Size: $13.80 ($1.15 Rake)

BB had 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$6.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pairs, Aces and Sevens) and LOST (-$6.40)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.05
BB: $14.04
UTG: $90.38
Hero (MP): $33.25
CO: $25.78
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO raises to $3.00, Hero raises to $9.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.35) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $14.75, CO calls $14.75

River: ($49.85) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO calls all-in for $1.03
Uncalled bet of $0.22 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $51.91 ($2.55 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pairs, Kings and Fives) and WON (+$23.58)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$25.78)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $18.70
BB: $9.50
Hero (UTG): $23.70
MP: $13.58
CO: $25.90
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $1.00, MP raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($5.60) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $3.00, MP raises to $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $11.00, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($27.60) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP calls all-in for $0.83
Uncalled bet of $0.42 returned to Hero

River: ($29.26) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $29.26 ($1.95 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Queens) and WON (+$13.73)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (high card Ace) and LOST (-$13.58)

Gelford

06-01-2007, 03:09 PM

Shizzle ... take a break, you need ... that's all.

(Or play a wee bit of 10NL for a while)

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 03:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Shizzle ... take a break, you need ... that's all.

(Or play a wee bit of 10NL for a while)

[/ QUOTE ]
thats the problem, this stuff happened for 2 weeks, i took my 2nd break for a couple days, yesterday went ok im playing a good game, but now it just goes bad and more badder. Im doomswitched big time here.

And i cant play 6max 10NL on party /images/graemlins/frown.gif

barryc83

06-01-2007, 03:20 PM

Standard? Or should I fold somewhere?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.45
BB: $59.00
Hero (UTG): $61.75
CO: $114.40
BTN: $49.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($8.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, CO folds, BTN calls $6.00, BB folds

Turn: ($20.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $15.00, BTN raises all-in to $41.25, Hero calls $26.25

Gelford

06-01-2007, 03:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Shizzle ... take a break, you need ... that's all.

(Or play a wee bit of 10NL for a while)

[/ QUOTE ]
thats the problem, this stuff happened for 2 weeks, i took my 2nd break for a couple days, yesterday went ok im playing a good game, but now it just goes bad and more badder. Im doomswitched big time here.

And i cant play 6max 10NL on party /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Show me a screen shot of you PT tracker general stats and positional stats !

Supwithbates

06-01-2007, 03:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
TEACH ME TEACH ME HOW TO RUN HOT, although 2nd was kinda played badly, but still.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $24.30
BB: $27.78
UTG: $25.00
BTN: $6.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG checks, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.40, BB calls $2.40, UTG folds

Turn: ($7.80) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

River: ($9.80) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

Pot Size: $13.80 ($1.15 Rake)

BB had 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$6.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pairs, Aces and Sevens) and LOST (-$6.40)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.05
BB: $14.04
UTG: $90.38
Hero (MP): $33.25
CO: $25.78
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO raises to $3.00, Hero raises to $9.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.35) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $14.75, CO calls $14.75

River: ($49.85) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO calls all-in for $1.03
Uncalled bet of $0.22 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $51.91 ($2.55 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pairs, Kings and Fives) and WON (+$23.58)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$25.78)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $18.70
BB: $9.50
Hero (UTG): $23.70
MP: $13.58
CO: $25.90
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $1.00, MP raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($5.60) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $3.00, MP raises to $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $11.00, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($27.60) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP calls all-in for $0.83
Uncalled bet of $0.42 returned to Hero

River: ($29.26) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $29.26 ($1.95 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Queens) and WON (+$13.73)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (high card Ace) and LOST (-$13.58)

[/ QUOTE ]
Noneof those hands were played that well, but 2nd hand is definitely thebest of the 3...

Supwithbates

06-01-2007, 03:31 PM

standard didn't really even have to give it much thought, but still felt weird to c/f the rivered set
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $46.45
BB: $29.25
Hero (UTG): $50.75
MP: $54.60
CO: $49.75
BTN: $93.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, MP folds, CO raises to $7.00, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($21.75) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($21.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

River: ($21.75) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.00, 2 folds

Pot Size: $28.75 ($1.05 Rake)

Both villains are good and I respect their games. Probably post or at least lurk here.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 03:51 PM

500 hands, -6bi

what happened, i blacked out

Abramovic

06-01-2007, 03:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
500 hands, -6bi

what happened, i blacked out

[/ QUOTE ]

I had this about a week or so ago. Pretty sick, you cant understand how its possible.

TheCutter

06-01-2007, 04:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Standard? Or should I fold somewhere?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.45
BB: $59.00
Hero (UTG): $61.75
CO: $114.40
BTN: $49.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($8.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, CO folds, BTN calls $6.00, BB folds

Turn: ($20.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $15.00, BTN raises all-in to $41.25, Hero calls $26.25

[/ QUOTE ]

Standard.

TheCutter

06-01-2007, 04:03 PM

[ QUOTE ]
TEACH ME TEACH ME HOW TO RUN HOT, although 2nd was kinda played badly, but still.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $24.30
BB: $27.78
UTG: $25.00
BTN: $6.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG checks, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.40, BB calls $2.40, UTG folds

Turn: ($7.80) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

River: ($9.80) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

Pot Size: $13.80 ($1.15 Rake)

BB had 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$6.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pairs, Aces and Sevens) and LOST (-$6.40)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.05
BB: $14.04
UTG: $90.38
Hero (MP): $33.25
CO: $25.78
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO raises to $3.00, Hero raises to $9.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.35) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $14.75, CO calls $14.75

River: ($49.85) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO calls all-in for $1.03
Uncalled bet of $0.22 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $51.91 ($2.55 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pairs, Kings and Fives) and WON (+$23.58)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$25.78)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $18.70
BB: $9.50
Hero (UTG): $23.70
MP: $13.58
CO: $25.90
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $1.00, MP raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($5.60) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $3.00, MP raises to $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $11.00, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($27.60) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP calls all-in for $0.83
Uncalled bet of $0.42 returned to Hero

River: ($29.26) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $29.26 ($1.95 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Queens) and WON (+$13.73)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (high card Ace) and LOST (-$13.58)

[/ QUOTE ]

You played hands #1 and #3 very bad.

HotdogPoker

06-01-2007, 04:06 PM

Brag: I'm off to Punta Cana tomorrow!
Variance: No poker for a week.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 04:08 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
500 hands, -6bi

what happened, i blacked out

[/ QUOTE ]

I had this about a week or so ago. Pretty sick, you cant understand how its possible.

[/ QUOTE ]

its really wierd, im not too bothered... i have a good br, and i played well... but its just like....wow!!

BishopsFinger

06-01-2007, 04:08 PM

NEW GOAL FOR JUNE:

not having PT ring game stats running while i play. PAHUD will still be fine but i WONT GO AND CHECK HOW MUCH THOSE 2 53/47 COIN TOSS EDGES HAVE COST ME. ahem. not actually tilting.

TARGET
40k hands this month for 1k profit @ nl25 gogogooggogogo

barryc83

06-01-2007, 04:16 PM

This tilts me so hard. After winning he typed ty unprovoked and immediately left. People that do [censored] like this can die in a grease fire, their entire family too.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $57.45
BB: $26.55
UTG: $70.80
MP: $52.05
Hero (CO): $66.00
BTN: $183.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $6.00, 3 folds, MP calls $4.50

Flop: ($12.75) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $12.50, MP calls $10.00

Turn: ($37.75) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
MP bets $24.00, Hero raises all-in to $47.50, MP calls all-in for $9.55
Uncalled bet of $13.95 returned to Hero

River: ($104.85) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $104.85 ($3 Rake)

MP had 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON (+$49.80)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif and LOST (-$52.05)

sputum

06-01-2007, 04:28 PM

[ QUOTE ]
This tilts me so hard. After winning he typed ty unprovoked and immediately left. People that do [censored] like this can die in a grease fire, their entire family too.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $57.45
BB: $26.55
UTG: $70.80
MP: $52.05
Hero (CO): $66.00
BTN: $183.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $6.00, 3 folds, MP calls $4.50

Flop: ($12.75) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $12.50, MP calls $10.00

Turn: ($37.75) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
MP bets $24.00, Hero raises all-in to $47.50, MP calls all-in for $9.55
Uncalled bet of $13.95 returned to Hero

River: ($104.85) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $104.85 ($3 Rake)

MP had 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON (+$49.80)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif and LOST (-$52.05)

[/ QUOTE ]

I used to be scared of NL50 on Stars /images/graemlins/blush.gif
750 hands in and the feeling's gone /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Just win it back off the next one /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Gelford

06-01-2007, 04:30 PM

LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

sputum

06-01-2007, 04:46 PM

[ QUOTE ]
LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[/ QUOTE ]
I haven't been stacked yet. Feels weird /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

ama0330

06-01-2007, 04:46 PM

[ QUOTE ]
LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[/ QUOTE ]

join the club!

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 04:51 PM

Here's me taking my best shot at 25NL ever!!
A couple of questions:
1) Given my stats, is this sustainable? Please note that my winrate is converted to big blinds and not pt big bets.

2) If it is'nt sustainable what can expect/hope to make here long term asssuming I'm playing well?

Regardless, I'm currently on cloud nine. Driving my family crazy though by talking about poker non-stop. If I could do this 40 hours a week I could be out of debt in no time!!!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/tidyguyhayes/25NLsofar.jpg

Vyse

06-01-2007, 04:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Here's me taking my best shot at 25NL ever!!
A couple of questions:
1) Given my stats, is this sustainable? Please note that my winrate is converted to big blinds and not pt big bets.

2) If it is'nt sustainable what can expect/hope to make here long term asssuming I'm playing well?

Regardless, I'm currently on cloud nine. Driving my family crazy though by talking about poker non-stop. If I could do this 40 hours a week I could be out of debt in no time!!!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/tidyguyhayes/25NLsofar.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

No, you nit.

Randomly bussing up to San Luis Obispo for five days or so, gonna take some shots at NL 50 on FT, but after that not much poker for a week or so.

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 04:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
No, you nit.

Randomly bussing up to San Luis Obispo for five days or so, gonna take some shots at NL 50 on FT, but after that not much poker for a week or so.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm definitely playing more nitty here but I think that's a good thing keeping myself out of more marginal situations until I become more comfortable. I used to run at around 21/18 at 5cent FWIW.

Chomp

06-01-2007, 05:11 PM

Decided to try some 100NL tonight to let the boys and girls up there know how we Microballas do it....

..................................................

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($196)
Button ($95)
Hero ($97.50)
BB ($111.12)
UTG ($97.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $11, Hero calls $11.

River: ($42) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $29, Hero calls $76.50 (All-In), BB calls $47.50.

Final Pot: $195

Results in white below:
BB has Kc Qd (two pair, kings and queens).
Hero has 8h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $195.

.................................................

Boooom! Love it.

Seriously though, definitely my biggest problem when I take a shot is thinking everyone is pulling moves on me. I stacked off with KK about 5 minutes after the hand above when I knew villain had a flopped set but I just couldn't shake the nasty feeling he was trying it on. I was wrong.

So I'm gonna go back for some more this evening and play it vanilla white.

netstorm

06-01-2007, 05:11 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[/ QUOTE ]

join the club!

[/ QUOTE ]

Ill join!! Obviously a set of 2's isnt good on a A26r flop. Villain had A8. runner 8's ftw!!

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 05:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]

Seriously though, definitely my biggest problem when I take a shot is thinking everyone is pulling moves on me.

[/ QUOTE ]

I here ya man. I think that I was ready to move up months ago but whenever I took shots I thought the same thing was happening. This behaviour induces tilt.

NL Newbie

06-01-2007, 05:16 PM

Im a RB pro now, woooot

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 05:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Im a RB pro now, woooot

[/ QUOTE ]

Does this mean you earn enough off of rakeback alone?
If so.... BASTARD!!!!!

ama0330

06-01-2007, 05:21 PM

no sleep till even

BishopsFinger

06-01-2007, 05:28 PM

one of my main aims for the month was to eliminate the horrific monkey tilt that has plauged me since i began playing. as we can see i have failed. totally.

these hands are posted in order of me getting more and more enraged:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $2.50
BB: $20.25
UTG: $24.50
MP: $30.75
CO: $15.35
Hero (BTN): $40.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.85) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.00, CO raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $14.00, CO calls $8.00

Turn: ($30.85) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($30.85) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO calls all-in for $0.10
Uncalled bet of $0.15 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $31.05 ($1.55 Rake)

CO had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Eights) and WON (+$14.15)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$15.35)

now this wouldnt have been so bad.. but when he didnt bet the last 10c of his stack for some reason i was absolutely positive i was going to take it down.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $15.65
BB: $31.65
UTG: $30.45
MP: $62.55
Hero (CO): $23.75
BTN: $29.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.35, UTG calls $1.10, MP calls $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($5.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
BB bets $5.50, 2 folds, Hero raises all-in to $22.40, BB calls $16.90

Turn: ($50.30) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($50.30) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $50.30 ($2.50 Rake)

BB had A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$24.05)
Hero had 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$23.75)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $25.85
BB: $46.15
UTG: $21.85
MP: $54.60
Hero (CO): $25.45
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.00, BTN raises to $5.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($12.35) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00

River: ($22.35) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Pot Size: $22.35 ($1.10 Rake)

BTN had J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and Tens) and WON (+$10.25)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (Queen Jack high) and LOST (-$11.00)

entering eurgh im just going to lose tonight arent i mode.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.80
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $26.70
MP: $35.60
CO: $23.25
BTN: $35.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.75) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.20, UTG calls $2.20, SB folds

Turn: ($5.65) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4.00, UTG calls $4.00

River: ($13.65) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00

Pot Size: $23.65 ($1.15 Rake)

UTG had 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a flush, King high) and WON (+$11.05)
Hero had 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Nines and Sevens) and LOST (-$11.45)

the turn call that broke the donkey's back.

the rest is standard:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $29.95
BB: $50.10
Hero (UTG): $25.00
MP: $10.15
CO: $31.15
BTN: $10.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $1.00, MP calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($4.25) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, MP folds, CO raises all-in to $30.15, SB folds, Hero calls all-in for $20.00
Uncalled bet of $6.15 returned to CO

Turn: ($52.25) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($52.25) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $52.25 ($2.60 Rake)

CO had 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Fives) and WON (+$24.65)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$25.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $25.95
BB: $25.35
UTG: $25.90
Hero (CO): $24.65
BTN: $17.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $6.00, UTG raises all-in to $24.90, Hero calls all-in for $17.65
Uncalled bet of $1.25 returned to UTG

Turn: ($49.65) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($49.65) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $49.65 ($2.45 Rake)

UTG had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$22.55)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (King Queen high) and LOST (-$24.65)

Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.00
BB: $31.40
UTG: $10.45
MP: $31.70
CO: $25.45
Hero (BTN): $25.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.50, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, MP calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.85) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
MP checks, CO bets $10.00, Hero calls $10.00, MP folds

Turn: ($24.85) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO bets $13.85, Hero calls $13.85

River: ($52.55) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
CO bets all-in for $0.10, Hero calls all-in for $0.05
Uncalled bet of $0.05 returned to CO

Pot Size: $52.65 ($2.60 Rake)

CO had Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$24.65)
Hero had J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$25.40)

barryc83

06-01-2007, 05:31 PM

hey i run good too
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $78.35
BB: $51.50
UTG: $23.20
MP: $15.50
Hero (CO): $65.00
BTN: $36.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

Turn: ($12.75) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $10.00, BTN calls $10.00

River: ($32.75) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $49.00, BTN calls all-in for $20.00
Uncalled bet of $29.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $72.75 ($3 Rake)

BTN had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and Sevens) and LOST (-$36.00)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens) and WON (+$33.75)

kazana

06-01-2007, 05:33 PM

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No, you nit.

Randomly bussing up to San Luis Obispo for five days or so, gonna take some shots at NL 50 on FT, but after that not much poker for a week or so.

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I'm definitely playing more nitty here but I think that's a good thing keeping myself out of more marginal situations until I become more comfortable. I used to run at around 21/18 at 5cent FWIW.

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First off, congrats with a successful shot at higher stakes! I've been in a few failed shots, so I've learnt that we'd better appreciate the ones that go well.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Nothing wrong with nitting it up while getting used to new stakes. At uNL you'll still get paid off well enough on average.

Your winrate won't be sustainable, though. Loosen up on the button and cutoff and see how it goes from there. Don't start playing crap OOP just because the games seem so easy.

Gelford

06-01-2007, 05:34 PM

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LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

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join the club!

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Ill join!! Obviously a set of 2's isnt good on a A26r flop. Villain had A8. runner 8's ftw!!

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Oh ... just got out played ... I 3bet AA from the BB - villian just smooth calls this and 53s flops two pair.

BishopsFinger

06-01-2007, 05:36 PM

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hey i run good too
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $78.35
BB: $51.50
UTG: $23.20
MP: $15.50
Hero (CO): $65.00
BTN: $36.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

Turn: ($12.75) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $10.00, BTN calls $10.00

River: ($32.75) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $49.00, BTN calls all-in for $20.00
Uncalled bet of $29.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $72.75 ($3 Rake)

BTN had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and Sevens) and LOST (-$36.00)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens) and WON (+$33.75)

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont - june:

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i716769_june.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

(i realise its running tilt and i run hot too but today im going to be indignant and wholeheartedly deny the fact that anything good will ever happen in my life again)

<very sarcastic>

Supwithbates

06-01-2007, 05:38 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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LOL ... NL welcomes me back with open arms ... six stackings within 15 minutes (with me getting stacked that is /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[/ QUOTE ]

join the club!

[/ QUOTE ]

Ill join!! Obviously a set of 2's isnt good on a A26r flop. Villain had A8. runner 8's ftw!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh ... just got out played ... I 3bet AA from the BB - villian just smooth calls this and 53s flops two pair.

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/grin.gif
whine whine whine /images/graemlins/grin.gif

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 05:39 PM

he had implied odds obv if you stacked off with ur measly ONE PAIR

EDIT: 30hrs/week won't be so bad in THIS

http://www.staples.com/sbd/img/cat/enl/s0136217_enl.jpg

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 05:42 PM

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Your winrate won't be sustainable, though. Loosen up on the button and cutoff and see how it goes from there. Don't start playing crap OOP just because the games seem so easy.

[/ QUOTE ]

So what sort of winrates are sustainable at $25NL?

dawade

06-01-2007, 05:42 PM

Is 50NL always this easy?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.65
UTG+1: $34.25
CO: $107.35
Button: $18.35
dawade: $70.40
BB: $50.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) dawade is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif
3 folds, Button calls, dawade calls, BB checks.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.5, 3 players)
dawade bets $1.25, BB raises to $4, Button folds, dawade raises to $22, BB raises all-in $49.9, dawade calls.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif ($101.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.3)

River: 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($101.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.3)

Results:
Final pot: $101.3
dawade Shows Jh 10h
BB Shows 6d Ah

NL Newbie

06-01-2007, 05:47 PM

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Im a RB pro now, woooot

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Does this mean you earn enough off of rakeback alone?
If so.... BASTARD!!!!!

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Will never make enough, even 1 million a month isn't enough /images/graemlins/grin.gif

It'll match my GF's pay for her 5day a week job though, which is the aim /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gelford

06-01-2007, 05:55 PM

Whine whine whine .... hehe ... well, I think I'll make this a minbet month, so if you need me I'll be in the uLHE NC thread also known as the Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her home in a cart thread

Vyse

06-01-2007, 05:59 PM

People float non-stop at 50 NL.. Dude went two streets with AQo on 3347 board. Standard?

kazana

06-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Your winrate won't be sustainable, though. Loosen up on the button and cutoff and see how it goes from there. Don't start playing crap OOP just because the games seem so easy.

[/ QUOTE ]

So what sort of winrates are sustainable at $25NL?

[/ QUOTE ]
Dunno, I only spent some 30k hands there. I think I ran at around 8 BB/100.
Just realize that this number means almost nothing over such a small sample. If anything, it's just an indicator.

I'm fairly certain a really solid player should get close to 15 BB/100 over a strong sample. Problem is, those players won't stay around that long. I guess we'll never know for sure, eh?

kazana

06-01-2007, 06:03 PM

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People float non-stop at 50 NL.. Dude went two streets with AQo on 3347 board. Standard?

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For some villains, yeah. For others - heck no.

Also depends a lot on your image. I've had weak/tighties float me with stuff like that because I shot my image to hell with a "move" (aka playing like an idiot).

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:08 PM

well, officially my largest downswing, hit 7bi just now. not so sure that june will be a month to cherish /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

kazana

06-01-2007, 06:09 PM

7 bi, ouch that bites.
Bad play involved?

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 06:10 PM

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well, officially my largest downswing, hit 7bi just now. not so sure that june will be a month to cherish /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

ama that sucks. I read this great post before called 'connect'. Since then, which was like 60k hands ago, my largest downswing has been 4buy-ins. Ship it.
GL in June.

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 06:13 PM

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Shizzle ... take a break, you need ... that's all.

(Or play a wee bit of 10NL for a while)

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thats the problem, this stuff happened for 2 weeks, i took my 2nd break for a couple days, yesterday went ok im playing a good game, but now it just goes bad and more badder. Im doomswitched big time here.

And i cant play 6max 10NL on party /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Show me a screen shot of you PT tracker general stats and positional stats !

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this is from the last 2 days:
appart from the first AA hand i posted i got the money in good almost all the time..

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4918/sssstk8.jpg

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 06:19 PM

position stats are the most important....

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:20 PM

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7 bi, ouch that bites.
Bad play involved?

[/ QUOTE ]

I wont pretend that I played perfectly, but the beats were incredible, mind blowing. Im reviewing the session now, then I'll come back for another hour and a half of play to see what I can do, then I'll be done for the night.

In a way Im sort of glad because I've never had a downswing this bad and I needed to know what it felt like. FWIW its not very nice lol

Bowlboy

06-01-2007, 06:23 PM

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Shizzle ... take a break, you need ... that's all.

(Or play a wee bit of 10NL for a while)

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thats the problem, this stuff happened for 2 weeks, i took my 2nd break for a couple days, yesterday went ok im playing a good game, but now it just goes bad and more badder. Im doomswitched big time here.

And i cant play 6max 10NL on party /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Show me a screen shot of you PT tracker general stats and positional stats !

[/ QUOTE ]

this is from the last 2 days:
appart from the first AA hand i posted i got the money in good almost all the time..

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4918/sssstk8.jpg

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I know this is for gelford to analyze but looks like you're being a little to cautious on the river, with the low SD% and high win %. This seems to show up in your low river aggression as well. Possibly check folding too many so-so hands on the river? Maybe blocking more on the river oop will help you there.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:24 PM

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1331/dsan1.jpg

Vyse

06-01-2007, 06:26 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #2560584698: Table Hualapai (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:22:51 ET - 2007/06/01
Seat 1: locdoutnigga ($24)
Seat 2: youremydaddy ($93.20)
Seat 3: iwasakib ($46)
Seat 4: BorgataBoss1 ($26.55)
Seat 5: Vyse0wnzj00 ($133.90)
Seat 6: Sharkerfish ($57.75)
iwasakib posts the small blind of $0.25
BorgataBoss1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vyse0wnzj00 [4s 4c]
Vyse0wnzj00 raises to $2
Sharkerfish folds
locdoutnigga calls $2
youremydaddy calls $2
iwasakib folds
BorgataBoss1 folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 2s 7s]
Vyse0wnzj00 has 15 seconds left to act
Vyse0wnzj00 checks
locdoutnigga bets $4.50
youremydaddy folds
Vyse0wnzj00 calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [7h 2s 7s] [6h]
Vyse0wnzj00 checks
locdoutnigga bets $11.50
Vyse0wnzj00 raises to $127.40, and is all in
locdoutnigga calls $6, and is all in
Vyse0wnzj00 shows [4s 4c]
locdoutnigga shows [9s 8s]
Uncalled bet of $109.90 returned to Vyse0wnzj00
*** RIVER *** [7h 2s 7s 6h] [2h]
Vyse0wnzj00 shows two pair, Sevens and Fours
locdoutnigga shows two pair, Sevens and Twos
Vyse0wnzj00 wins the pot ($48.25) with two pair, Sevens and Fours
locdoutnigga is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.75 | Rake $2.50
Board: [7h 2s 7s 6h 2h]
Seat 1: locdoutnigga showed [9s 8s] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Twos
Seat 2: youremydaddy (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: iwasakib (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: BorgataBoss1 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Vyse0wnzj00 showed [4s 4c] and won ($48.25) with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 6: Sharkerfish didn't bet (folded)

My reads are good.

Unfortunately TT, JJ, and QQ never is. This is getting annoying.

Make that KK too. This is seriously pissing me off, having to lay them down every time.

Triggerle

06-01-2007, 06:28 PM

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7 bi, ouch that bites.
Bad play involved?

[/ QUOTE ]

I wont pretend that I played perfectly, but the beats were incredible, mind blowing. Im reviewing the session now, then I'll come back for another hour and a half of play to see what I can do, then I'll be done for the night.

In a way Im sort of glad because I've never had a downswing this bad and I needed to know what it felt like. FWIW its not very nice lol

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This is my approach, too. I'm glad I'm experiencing downswings as long as I play down here so I can learn to deal with it. My biggest is 16 buy-ins (right now, lol, but I already recovered to 10) but you will be hard pressed to find a successful MSNL player who hadn't had 20 buy-in downswings. These are a part of poker and the sooner you learn to deal with stuff like that the sooner you become more "connected" in the sense of that post.

Vyse

06-01-2007, 06:30 PM

I'll never learn how to deal with downswings. I swear every fold I'm making is perfect, but I shouldn't have to =/

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:32 PM

Also, do you guys know about the "pot odds" radio button in the HH reviewer in PT? Make sure you are using it, it auto calculates your pot odds and gives you a little tick or a cross depending on your equity, which you can determine in pokerstove. So in this image I am good on this board versus villains calling range because the extra money in the pot gives me a profitable push based on pot odds. I think.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/303/tbeu6.jpg

Vyse

06-01-2007, 06:33 PM

... They float, they always hit the turn. Countdown to tilt...

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 06:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
... They float, they always hit the turn. Countdown to tilt...

[/ QUOTE ]

don't play OOP
?????
profit

ama0330

06-01-2007, 06:43 PM

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... They float, they always hit the turn. Countdown to tilt...

[/ QUOTE ]

don't play OOP
?????
profit

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qft.

Im done reviewing the session and tho I would say about 5 of the 7bi lost were just setups and beats, the interesting thing was that almost all my big pots were lost OOP. There were a lot of smaller pots lost raising or calling marginal hands OOP which could have been avoided. Might need to study this a bit more.

Well on to part 2, see if I can get unstuck a little...

Vyse

06-01-2007, 06:51 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
... They float, they always hit the turn. Countdown to tilt...

[/ QUOTE ]

don't play OOP
?????
profit

[/ QUOTE ]

Fold 88?

ama0330

06-01-2007, 07:00 PM

does anyone play QJo from UTG +1?

Vyse

06-01-2007, 07:10 PM

Yes.

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 07:14 PM

depends on table. I dont call with QJo OOP tho.

EMc

06-01-2007, 07:15 PM

7 buy ins is a bad day, not a downswing

kaz2107

06-01-2007, 07:40 PM

welp since ama doesnt think im balla im postin picks of my summer work station. took FOREVER to get tha damn thing assembled n [censored] cuz there were several parts that were made incorectly but its up and im ready to poine bitches all day now. just need to get a recliner or sumtin to sit in /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Note the disco ball (doesnt get much more balla then that /images/graemlins/wink.gif) i got aa perfect view of the lcd in tha living room.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/sams08/Misc/WorkStatio1.jpg

k we got tha bose headphones, targus wireless keypad, logitech Z4 speakers, microsoft 1000 mouse, dell 2007 FP, Dell Inspiron 9400, poker stars stress star, and RAZR
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/sams08/Misc/WorkStation.jpg

ama0330

06-01-2007, 08:01 PM

that disco ball is seriously disco-ballin

prodonkey

06-01-2007, 08:10 PM

where is the coke and the lotion? no setup pic is complete without those

Shizzle12345

06-01-2007, 08:27 PM

im sitting at a table with aggression of 21, and still 4 players fold to my pot bet wehn i have QQQ

ama0330

06-01-2007, 08:27 PM

i am a douchebag at the tables. i just dont know if ill ever change. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Vyse

06-01-2007, 08:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
im sitting at a table with aggression of 21, and still 4 players fold to my pot bet wehn i have QQQ

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't bet the pot.

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 08:38 PM

[censored] great start to June.

Up 1/2 BI and PT thinks I'm down $3....[censored] that, this is gonna haunt me forever

tehDiceman

06-01-2007, 08:49 PM

my standard donkament beat for the night. so freaking rediculous how i get sucked out on every friggen time.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1380)
MP3 (t1540)
CO (t2170)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1480)
Hero (t1400)
UTG (t520)
UTG+1 (t2060)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 raises to t240, 3 folds, CO calls t240, 2 folds, Hero calls t220, UTG raises to t520, UTG+1 raises to t800, CO calls t560, Hero raises to t1420, UTG+1 raises to t2560, CO calls t1200.

Flop: (t6510) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
UTG+1 bets t60 (All-In), CO calls t60.

Turn: (t6630) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t6630) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t6630

Results below:
Hero has Qd Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
UTG has Ah 4h (two pair, aces and fours).
UTG+1 has Kd 2c (high card, ace).
CO has 9s 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO wins t6630.

yimc17

06-01-2007, 08:51 PM

So, I started June off down $100. 5% bad luck and 95% bad play. I will show you an example. I am not really sure what I am doing here in this hand, but I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the showdown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($20.05)
BB ($18.20)
Hero ($28.50)
Button ($3.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, Button folds, BB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($9.10) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $3.75, BB calls $3.25.

River: ($16.60) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $4.25, BB calls $3.75.

Final Pot: $25.10

Results in white below: 
BB has 4c Ts (two pair, kings and fours).
Hero has Jd Qh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $25.10.

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 08:52 PM

may I ask WTF u are doing?

ama0330

06-01-2007, 08:55 PM

/images/graemlins/heart.gif BB

Archon_Wing

06-01-2007, 08:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
my standard donkament beat for the night. so freaking rediculous how i get sucked out on every friggen time.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1380)
MP3 (t1540)
CO (t2170)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1480)
Hero (t1400)
UTG (t520)
UTG+1 (t2060)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 raises to t240, 3 folds, CO calls t240, 2 folds, Hero calls t220, UTG raises to t520, UTG+1 raises to t800, CO calls t560, Hero raises to t1420, UTG+1 raises to t2560, CO calls t1200.

Flop: (t6510) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
UTG+1 bets t60 (All-In), CO calls t60.

Turn: (t6630) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t6630) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t6630

Results below:
Hero has Qd Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
UTG has Ah 4h (two pair, aces and fours).
UTG+1 has Kd 2c (high card, ace).
CO has 9s 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO wins t6630.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's not a bad beat.

yimc17

06-01-2007, 08:58 PM

lol, I was a little too distracted to be playing, and my ego. I was all like you wanna lead weak into me I [censored] raise you all day bitch.....oh, he read my soul.

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 09:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
lol, I was a little too distracted to be playing, and my ego. I was all like you wanna lead weak into me I [censored] raise you all day bitch.....oh, he read my soul.

[/ QUOTE ]

good idea to raise, but raise MORE, christ you're giving him odds to call

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 09:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
may I ask WTF u are doing?

[/ QUOTE ]

FYI: you had 30% equity preflop, that's goot enough for AI?

barryc83

06-01-2007, 09:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So, I started June off down $100. 5% bad luck and 95% bad play. I will show you an example. I am not really sure what I am doing here in this hand, but I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the showdown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($20.05)
BB ($18.20)
Hero ($28.50)
Button ($3.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, Button folds, BB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($9.10) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $3.75, BB calls $3.25.

River: ($16.60) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $4.25, BB calls $3.75.

Final Pot: $25.10

Results in white below: 
BB has 4c Ts (two pair, kings and fours).
Hero has Jd Qh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $25.10. 

[/ QUOTE ]

This should probably be stickied.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 09:08 PM

i love that hand for so many reasons

ama0330

06-01-2007, 09:13 PM

LOL i hit the nut full house on a 4 flush river and shove on some guy who I know has some kind of flush. I let him time down to about 5 sec then in the chat say "fold"

he calls with 9 high flush aaaaahahhahahahahhaha

im pissing my pants here i angle shoot so goot

losingdonkey

06-01-2007, 09:17 PM

last 2k hands of 10NL ran 2bb/100 though I made few mistakes, I hate downswings

EMc

06-01-2007, 09:19 PM

nothing has changed

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

The King (SB): $52.90
BB: $47.50
UTG: $20.00
CO: $20.00
BTN: $75.50

CO posts $0.50
Preflop: The King is dealt Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO checks, BTN folds, The King raises to $2.50, BB calls $2.00, CO folds

Flop: ($5.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
The King bets $5.00, BB raises to $15.00, The King raises all-in to $50.40, BB calls all-in for $30.00
Uncalled bet of $5.40 returned to The King

Turn: ($95.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($95.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $95.50 ($3 Rake)

BB had 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$45.25)
The King had Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$47.50)

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 09:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
last 2k hands of 10NL ran 2bb/100 though I made few mistakes, I hate downswings

[/ QUOTE ]

wait until u lose over 2k samples...or MORE

losingdonkey

06-01-2007, 09:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
last 2k hands of 10NL ran 2bb/100 though I made few mistakes, I hate downswings

[/ QUOTE ]

wait until u lose over 2k samples...or MORE

[/ QUOTE ]

it shouldn't have to be like that at 10NL!

losingdonkey

06-01-2007, 09:25 PM

vnh

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.75
hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $5.60
MP: $11.15
CO: $1.00
BTN: $27.65

Preflop: hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, hero raises to $0.60, UTG calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.85) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
hero bets $1.50, UTG folds, BTN calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.85) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
hero bets $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

River: ($12.85) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
hero bets all-in for $3.90, BTN calls $3.90

Pot Size: $20.65 ($1 Rake)

BTN had 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Four to Eight) and WON (+$9.65)
hero had Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$10.00)

barryc83

06-01-2007, 09:25 PM

lol i had a 12 bi downswaing @ 50nl, that was truly sad. beats, coolers, and a whole lot of bad play.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 09:26 PM

Im back up 3bi and have turned my nightmare into a much more manageagle 4bi downswing which is more like a bad day at the office and less like a complete abortion.

Id like to thank John Mayer, Coldplay, and Hoover.

kaz2107

06-01-2007, 09:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
last 2k hands of 10NL ran 2bb/100 though I made few mistakes, I hate downswings

[/ QUOTE ]downswing means u lose monies. lol. u sir must run amazing if u have NEVER had a losign 2k hands. lol.

here is sumtin to look forward to as u move up

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/sams08/Misc/feb-10.jpg

kbrat

06-01-2007, 09:32 PM

weee good start to june, +11 BI day.
Would've been 15BI day if I had quit 15 minutes early, but proceeded to lose KK vs AA, set vs NFD in on flop and set under set to the same guy within 3 orbits, hopefully the rest of the month won't be downhill from here.

derosnec

06-01-2007, 09:37 PM

i still can't decide if i played this bad or not. villain is squeaky tight, but when he checks river (with no draw on flop really, i don't he's inducing a bluff), i thought the queen freaked him out. actually, yeah i played this bad. no i didn't. yes i did. can't decide. i'm trying Fold AJ/TT-88. but i doubt he bets turn with TT-88. i suck.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($35.55)
BB ($40.60)
UTG ($117.15)
Hero ($51.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises to $2, Hero calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($24.75) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $17.5, UTG calls $17.50.

UTG has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Hero has 7c 8c (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins $59.75.

ama0330

06-01-2007, 09:37 PM

its a green mountain and a red sea

ama0330

06-01-2007, 09:38 PM

id probably just fold that turn...but im nitty

Chomp

06-01-2007, 09:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
7 buy ins is a bad day, not a downswing

[/ QUOTE ]

yellowbluebus

06-01-2007, 09:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
LOL i hit the nut full house on a 4 flush river and shove on some guy who I know has some kind of flush. I let him time down to about 5 sec then in the chat say "fold"

he calls with 9 high flush aaaaahahhahahahahhaha

im pissing my pants here i angle shoot so goot

[/ QUOTE ]

ama,

So you are saying that a few minutes ago when I had AA and it was 4-bet PF 3 ways I should've said "fold" to my flop push into 2 opponents? I said "call" as he hesitated with some kind of over pair to the board and tells me, "i know you have king but i good pot odds." River brought him a T for a set. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

barryc83

06-01-2007, 09:58 PM

come on wtf is this????

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $82.25
BB: $68.80
Hero (UTG): $50.00
BTN: $60.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8.50, Hero raises all-in to $44.50, BTN calls $36.00

River: ($100.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $100.75 ($2 Rake)

BTN had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Tens) and WON (+$48.75)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (high card Ace) and LOST (-$50.00)

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 10:13 PM

don't try to stack-a-donk with draws....

it's called stack-a-donk for a reason!

p.s. fold PF!

yimc17

06-01-2007, 10:20 PM

Here are two more hands from today. The key to success is to slowplay sets and let your oppoents draw out. I will be selling my screenname on all sites for $100, you will probably get back your investment within a couple hours of playing with me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($30.40)
SB ($33.60)
Hero ($33.55)
UTG ($20.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($3.75) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2, UTG folds.

Turn: ($7.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7.75) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero raises to $30.3, SB calls $23.30.

Final Pot: $68.35

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8h 8s (three of a kind, eights).
SB has Kd Ks (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: SB wins $68.35. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($27.30)
Hero ($25.25)
Button ($8.75)
SB ($41.55)
BB ($33.20)
UTG ($47.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.25) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($6.25) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.25, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $5.75.

River: ($22.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $30.55 (All-In), Hero calls $14.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $67.05

Results in white below: 
SB has Qc Th (straight, ace high).
Hero has Jh Jd (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins $67.05.

barryc83

06-01-2007, 10:20 PM

you fold pf 4 handed? i knew that bastard was floating me, i guess he put me on 78s.

hanover

06-01-2007, 11:38 PM

25NL is turning me into a robot.

dawade

06-01-2007, 11:46 PM

Um, holla?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $105.95
UTG+1: $100.65
CO: $114.70
Button: $79.10
dawade: $99.50
BB: $135.99

Pre-flop: (6 players) dawade is SB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, dawade calls, BB checks.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2, 4 players)
dawade bets $1.5, BB folds, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($5, 2 players)
dawade bets $4, UTG calls.

River: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($13, 2 players)
dawade is all-in $93.5, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $200
dawade Shows 6s 7s
UTG Shows As Jd

jonyy6788

06-01-2007, 11:58 PM

I'm turning into such a freakin nit, but rollin in da micromoniez is fun

ybother

06-02-2007, 12:02 AM

i thought 16/13 was standard, no?

jonyy6788

06-02-2007, 12:05 AM

it feels nitty b/c I was playing 19/17 for the last 2 months

15/12 today, meh

ybother

06-02-2007, 12:11 AM

thats perfect for ub, no one notices, nitty=money

meleader2

06-02-2007, 12:19 AM

i don't under-[censored]-stand how i make 20 bi a month when i [censored] LOSE TEN IN ONE NIGHT

i seriously almost punched my 204b

bluef0x

06-02-2007, 01:28 AM

[ QUOTE ]
you fold pf 4 handed? i knew that bastard was floating me, i guess he put me on 78s.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't fold 87s preflop 4 handed. However, why the c/r on the turn? What range did you put him on? I think you might be over-valuing combo draws on the turn. They are super-nice on the flop, but on the turn they take a drop.

jonyy6788

06-02-2007, 02:14 AM

[ QUOTE ]
you fold pf 4 handed? i knew that bastard was floating me, i guess he put me on 78s.

[/ QUOTE ]

didn't see that, nvm earlier post!

Shaqalicious

06-02-2007, 02:19 AM

hyachachachacha i just won the 3K guaranteed 5+r on bodog for 825 bones. my biggest donkament win yet. especially amazing because i lost 80% of my stack on the final table bubble when i had A4 on a A4T flop when some donk shoved over my PSB with 99 and turned a set.

Genz

06-02-2007, 02:53 AM

nice. congratulations.

Tinga

06-02-2007, 03:01 AM

I don't like to fold.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Hero ($50.70)
SB ($106.85)
BB ($50)
UTG ($71.80)
MP ($128.50)
CO ($60.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.5, SB raises to $11, Hero calls $7.50.

Turn: ($26.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($26.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero raises to $37.7, SB folds.

Final Pot: $77.20

SUfan5

06-02-2007, 03:26 AM

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4359/graphct6.jpg

Really annoying day. Didn't finish down too much, but I really should've made a lot more. Hopefully the rest of June won't be like today.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 03:51 AM

i just got dozed. im not sure if i will ever move from 5NL. hands to come. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

ps: june sucks.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 04:22 AM

yay for getting the monies in. villian even says thx after the hand was over. i gave him a quick piece of my mind and he shut up.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($2.71)
BB ($5.55)
Hero ($4.97)
MP ($1.92)
CO ($3.39)
Button ($1.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.26) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, MP raises to $0.52, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.08, MP calls $1.32 (All-In).

Turn: ($6.18) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($6.18) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $6.18

Results below:
Hero has Qs Qd (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP has Kc Js (full house, jacks full of threes).
Outcome: MP wins $3.94. Hero wins $2.24.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 04:33 AM

ugh did i misread this hand. some of you have already had a laugh, now the rest can.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($1.34)
CO ($0.77)
Button ($2.78)
SB ($4.10)
Hero ($5.14)
UTG ($1.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.14, MP folds, CO folds, SB calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.32) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32.

Turn: ($0.96) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($0.96) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1.96

so i've life tilted and went back to play some more. if i had read this hand correctly, i would have had a new BR record. i went back and owned some newbs to make myself feel better. BR record squashed. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 05:15 AM

who likes this check on the turn with the nuts? i think i should have raised him on the turn though, at the same time, i dont want to scare him away and hopefully he can suck out to his flush or whatever he is chasing. how about river bet, big enough? i figured board was scary enough that villian wasnt calling the river but he snap called so perhaps i should have bet more.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($5.37)
Button ($2.44)
Hero ($5.23)
BB ($4.51)
UTG ($3.44)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BB calls $0.06.

Flop: ($0.16) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12.

Turn: ($0.40) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08.

River: ($0.56) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, BB calls $0.40.

Final Pot: $1.36

creamfillin

06-02-2007, 05:21 AM

Way to control the size of the pot when you want it to get out of control. At least CR the turn. This is a blind battle so he is he isn't folding his precious ace/flush draw/8.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 05:39 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Way to control the size of the pot when you want it to get out of control. At least CR the turn. This is a blind battle so he is he isn't folding his precious ace/flush draw/8.

[/ QUOTE ]

yea, im angry with myself. however, i wasnt getting any action all night so i was trying to give the villians a chance now and again. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

pmw

06-02-2007, 06:02 AM

finally back at 10nl. I am pretty happy with my game at 10nl. Everytime i took shots at 25nl i played a bit scared money. In a month or two i have to try it again.

Genz

06-02-2007, 06:04 AM

Dude, when you are not getting action, EXPLOIT IT! If your villains are making a mistake by not calling/betting enough, you don't want to make them call/bet more and actually move them closer to a correct play, but engrave their mistakes even more by getting them to call/bet EVEN LESS, i.e.: steal their [censored] blinds all the [censored] time and get away from it when they take a stand. Don't make them play good against you by trying to induce stuff. You only want to induce a bluff by a player who is already prone to bluff too much. Otherwise you get the timid player to make a good play against you.

Genz

06-02-2007, 06:06 AM

I obviously didn't look at the hand. But it's a common misconception that I see all the time here, that people try to make the players that are too tight losen up because they think they get more action on their good hands then. It's dumb. Steal their blinds until they are angry at you and losen up. Then change gears and punish them with a decent holding.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 06:12 AM

good points. i was playing hudless so i didnt have his stats in front of me. i suppose when im playing that way i should just bet bet bet instead of get all fancy on villians. too much WSOP for me.

i was having quite a few hands where villians were calling cbets and 2nd barrels to fold to the river valuebet. im glad they were donating to my cause, however im sure it was only a matter of time until they could catch some hand i dont see coming and slowplay stack me.

Genz

06-02-2007, 06:18 AM

Never try to play like they do on TV. The either play atrociously or they edited the show so that you don't know the history between the players and can't understand their plays. It's a recipe for desaster, really.

And if you raise a lot to steal their blinds, you shouldn't play "bet, bet, bet" postflop. Use your head. Look at the board textures more and try to find spots where you can take the pot down or where your mediocre hand is good etc. When you are playing a game that is aimed at stealing blinds, you are basically trying to avoid postflop play because you mostly don't have much of a hand. And when one of those who FOLD TOO MUCH decides to ACTUALLY PLAY A HAND, he usually has the goods.

tehDiceman

06-02-2007, 06:22 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Never try to play like they do on TV. The either play atrociously or they edited the show so that you don't know the history between the players and can't understand their plays. It's a recipe for desaster, really.

And if you raise a lot to steal their blinds, you shouldn't play "bet, bet, bet" postflop. Use your head. Look at the board textures more and try to find spots where you can take the pot down or where your mediocre hand is good etc. When you are playing a game that is aimed at stealing blinds, you are basically trying to avoid postflop play because you mostly don't have much of a hand. And when one of those who FOLD TOO MUCH decides to ACTUALLY PLAY A HAND, he usually has the goods.

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont think im trying to steal the blinds with junk, hardly ever actually. at this level i've been shown to play the most basic ABC poker ever known to man and i think trying to steal with junk too much will just get me into trouble.

incorrect thinking?

OMGJuliet

06-02-2007, 06:33 AM

Variance or lack of skill?
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1772/24886023id1.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1772/24886023id1.jpg)
I began with $50 and beat NL5 and NL10 easily up to a BR of $600, then i moved up to NL25 where i have been breakeven after 40k hands (!). Is there really such a variance? Many people told me NL25 was one of the easiest limits.. i also have the same impression, but still i cant beat it.

What articles/threads should i read regarding my "moving up" problem. I never changed my game that much, i'm still playing same as on NL10 .. i rather think i've improved a bit.

*despair*

creamfillin

06-02-2007, 06:35 AM

You probably have some serious leaks

TheCutter

06-02-2007, 06:39 AM

Yeah I this kind of variance is not normal...

Shizzle12345

06-02-2007, 07:11 AM

i played 60k hands in 2 months on 25NL, ran good everything went ok, and then i basicly went through what he went through. Took beat after beat, and tilted some away, there are some bad plays between it, but not much. I had days i didnt stack anyone, and got hit by 2 outers or 4 outers all the time.. Its starting to get better now, I think im recovering a little bit.

I had some leaks in my game, but they werent really that big to cause the massive downswing.

didnt help either that i took some crazy shots before that haha.

Fiksdal

06-02-2007, 09:36 AM

Am I the only one here who find ftp to be TOTALLY rigged today?

God damn it.

munkey

06-02-2007, 10:11 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Am I the only one here who find ftp to be TOTALLY rigged most days?

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL. i thought it was just me but that sklansky bux calcs are always so much higher than any other sites for the lst 3 months [though I played very little this month], I'm expecting some equity to hold up this month...

Wow, the brew is on 12 pages and it's only 1 day in, i think we might have a part II this month...

I might have another shot this month but remember to not get FPS fancy and have some tables of Nl50 open to remind me to play like I always do and not bluff/get tricky too much.

Tickner's post is encouraging in that my tighty whitey style mght be o.k. - I didn't see much 3betting yesterday and had a 90/10 drooler @ teh table, I also think it was tick & pokey said to not change and get more tricky.

I'm a very slow learner /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
but I am going to actually convert and post a bunch a hands this month and actively try and get better/execute better.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.13
BB: $65.31
Hero (UTG): $75.50
CO: $8.00
BTN: $24.47

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, CO raises all-in to $8.00, BTN calls $8.00, SB raises all-in to $10.13, BB folds, Hero raises all-in to $75.50, BTN calls all-in for $16.47
Uncalled bet of $51.03 returned to Hero

Flop: ($67.57) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players - 4 All-In)

Turn: ($67.57) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players - 4 All-In)

River: ($67.57) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players - 4 All-In)

Pot Size: $67.57 ($2 Rake)

CO had Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$22.90)
BTN had A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$10.20)
SB had 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$10.13)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$24.47)

Anyone not push here and fold ? ,only 1/2 stack's call concerned me a tad but he was a calling station. i'm not sure what my equity was 3/4way vs PP/Ax. Why can I never hti the BB and get out and escape the shorties infiltration after the table breaks /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

jonyy6788

06-02-2007, 10:17 AM

The brew is barely 3 pages....change ur settings yo!

munkey

06-02-2007, 10:23 AM

ha ha jony /images/graemlins/grin.gif

My stats are 50/20 , what's yours?

BishopsFinger

06-02-2007, 10:25 AM

ftp is always rigged man!

what happened btw - i left you at that table with the enormous retard with like 7 BIs in front of him to go do some work for my dad, came back and find youve left him to keep at his chips?

jonyy6788

06-02-2007, 10:27 AM

[ QUOTE ]
ha ha jony /images/graemlins/grin.gif

My stats are 50/20 , what's yours?

[/ QUOTE ]

99 99

munkey

06-02-2007, 10:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
ha ha jony /images/graemlins/grin.gif

My stats are 50/20 , what's yours?

[/ QUOTE ]

99 99

[/ QUOTE ]

o.k. I'm bumping up my 'PFR' figure to 50
gives me 5 pages

holla

kazana

06-02-2007, 10:36 AM

99/99 only 2p2 stats that make any sense... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

jonyy6788

06-02-2007, 10:39 AM

do any of u guys use the "calls preflop raise" statistic in PAHUD?

looks like it could have some nice implications over bigger samples

Shizzle12345

06-02-2007, 10:41 AM

vs my 2nd biggest calling station in my buddy list. Hes been my ATM, and now im his ATM, im on life downswing:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $25.90
Hero (BB): $31.65
UTG: $12.00
MP: $14.68
CO: $17.97
BTN: $18.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, MP calls $2.00, CO folds

Flop: ($5.60) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($5.60) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4.00, MP calls $4.00

River: ($13.60) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $9.00, MP calls all-in for $8.18
Uncalled bet of $0.82 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $29.96 ($1.45 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON (+$13.83)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a straight Ten to Ace) and LOST (-$14.68)

Fiksdal

06-02-2007, 10:42 AM

[ QUOTE ]
ftp is always rigged man!

what happened btw - i left you at that table with the enormous retard with like 7 BIs in front of him to go do some work for my dad, came back and find youve left him to keep at his chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I know... I mean what a clown. Running like 80/30 and WTSD 30%.

The worst part is, he is up like 3 buyins from me. Let's just say there were some serious coolers.

So I started steaming, there was dinner, and I'm going out tonight. So I left the tables. That guy sure is buddy listed though.

NL Newbie

06-02-2007, 10:43 AM

BT ARE DUMB [censored] [censored] AND IF THEY DC MY CONNECTION ONE MORE [censored] TIME I SHALL BOMB THEIR [censored] OFFICES. DUMB [censored], WARN YOUR CUSTOMERS BEFORE YOUR DC ME 20 [censored] TIMES IN 10 MINUTES YOU [censored] [censored]!