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pkrPlayerBr
05-31-2007, 04:52 PM
READS: NONE as this was my first orbit.

So I started fast by 3-betting vs the 3xbb raiser. I like to get a lag image as I sit down. This seems to be working in later orbits as I get played back more often with big hands.

The question here is what to think of this player leading out? Call or Push?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($41.55)
UTG ($52.50)
MP ($75.95)
Hero ($47.25)
Button ($52.75)
SB ($46.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $5, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($16.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, MP folds, Hero ???

pkrPlayerBr
05-31-2007, 05:50 PM
Up, help

samwallistea
05-31-2007, 05:54 PM
Personally I would have folded KJ to a raise preflop. On the flop Id put in a substantial reraise, say $20-25. If he calls Id push the turn.

Sam T.
05-31-2007, 05:59 PM
Muck pre-flop. How do you play Kxx or Jxx with any confidence?

Can't really put him on AT, but QQ is a real possibility. But even that would bet bigger. Make it $25 and shove the turn unless that does weird things with stax. I'm too lazy to do the math.

Xilita
05-31-2007, 06:00 PM
I would raise it to 15. If he pushed I would let it go. The only hand he may push with that I could win would be AK. Every other hand I would be far behid if not drawing dead. QQ / JJ / AT / KQ / 9Ts. Sine there´s no information I would fold to any reraise.

mrw8419
05-31-2007, 07:51 PM
When you want to create that lag image do it with connectors or something that doesnt have such high negative implied odds.

Raise, raise, raise. Raise 20-25 on flop, get it in on any non a,q,10,9. Folding two pair in a 3 bet pot for less than 100bb is criminal.

tiger_hall
05-31-2007, 08:19 PM
fold pre flop...
u are going to raise the flop otherwise you have hit your hand on the flop and are now going to fold which would be stupid...

pkrPlayerBr
05-31-2007, 08:25 PM
I pushed.

Thanks for the tips on 3betting... I think that's what I am looking for. More 3-betting information plus post flop play.

I have been trying different things, and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

Thanks once again.

homeslice
05-31-2007, 08:26 PM
fold PF