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relativity_x
05-31-2007, 09:22 AM
This is my 5/6 hand in a 6max 50 NL, so no reads on villain.

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Hero ($52.05)
BB ($24.85)
UTG ($45.75)
Button ($55.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3.5</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $1.50.

comment: I didn't three bet preflop for two reasons. One, I didn't want to give away my hand strength, and two, I capped the action (not pricing anyone in).

Flop: ($7.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

comment: I decide to check since he raised last round even though this isn't the best flop for me. I can see the argument for a bet or c/r, but I don't feel it's best here.

Turn: ($11.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.5</font>, BB calls $6.50.

comment: I guess I could lead this turn, but I still like a check. His 2 dollar bet confused me, so I decide to c/r. His flat call also confused me.

At this point,I feel he didn't hit on the flop unless he hit the flush. If he did have the flush, I feel he'd push AI to my raise. I doubt he had a set on the flop because he would have flat called my pre-flop raise for set value with a PP less than 88, and I doubt he bets 2 dollars into an 11 dollar pot with a set of jacks. My hand range on him here is AJ+,88+. He's sitting with 11 dollars going into the turn with a ~30 dollar pot.

River Question: What do you do when (1)the board pairs (2)a heart comes (3) a blank comes?

chris269
05-31-2007, 09:29 AM
4 bet preflop. You give freecards to any pps, scs and what not. Your raise looks like a steal, and you dont have to play with such tricky deception at NL50...

Raise flop to 8 or more. This lead by villain is so weak, and you give him another freecard.

So on the turn, you have absolutely no idea what he has. Could be air, could be a monster.

SABR42
05-31-2007, 09:33 AM
Wow, you made this hand a lot harder than it should have been.

Let's analyze:
1) You have AA.
2) Some half-stacked donk min-raised you.

Your solution:
1) Re-raise to $10 pre-flop. They NEVER fold after min-raising like that.
2) Shove the flop.
3) ????????
4) PROFIT.

samwallistea
05-31-2007, 09:34 AM
Preflop:
Despite your reasons I still think you should 3 bet, personally his reraising your raise has already shown a lot of strength so you have to put him on strong holdings, so he's at least calling a reraise, maybe even coming over the top.

Flop:
Personally I would lead out with pot size bet here, youll find out where you are. His $2 bet is a little odd given the pot size, he could be doing a defensive bet with say AK, or he could have completely missed. As played, I would have raised to about $8-10.

Turn:
The Jack certainly didnt help him if say he was drawing to a flush and your check here risks giving a flush draw a free shot to outdraw you. Your definetely ahead here so just pot bet the turn.

River:
IMHO
1.Board pairs: check-call or make a small defensive bet. I really dont know what he has but Im pretty sure ahead if no heart falls on the river.

2.Heart comes: Most likely youll have to check fold

3.Blank comes: Bet. After your check raise on the turn he's much likely to check behind you with say AJ, a hand that would most likely call a value bet. Id lead out about 1/2 of the pot.

Go_BroKe
05-31-2007, 09:37 AM
Reraise preflop $11,
...bet the flop,
...push the turn

is the standard line here - play it that way

CrustyFace
05-31-2007, 09:37 AM
Preflop:

Reraise to 6.

Flop:

Lead out like more than 3/4 pot. I'm not scared of a flopped flush here, i never am. It's 6max. The day someone flops a flush against me the loss will be covered by all the times i take it down betting like this.

Turn:

Probably will have taken it down or folded to a push here. If not, check it down.

I think you played this hand very weak. It also sounds like you play too tight since you "didn't want to give away the strength of your hand".

Get aggressive.

BoerfSt
05-31-2007, 09:44 AM
[ QUOTE ]

Let's analyze:
1) You have AA.
2) Some half-stacked donk min-raised you.

Your solution:
1) Re-raise to $10 pre-flop. They NEVER fold after min-raising like that.
2) Shove the flop.
3) ????????
4) PROFIT.

[/ QUOTE ]

relativity_x
05-31-2007, 09:48 AM
I agree that I played this hand very weak. I really tried to get too fancy for this level. I agree the best move would have been 4 betting to 11/12 pre. Then leading out. I just reviewed this hand this morning and was disgusted with this play, but I got lucky and ended up stacking him anyway. He had QQ.

edit: I've just started playing cash games. I normally 8 table sngs, so I'm a little new to the 50NL. I think it should be very easily beatable?

inspir3d
05-31-2007, 10:00 AM
seriously this hand is so stupid?

what's with these noobs calling with AA preflop out of position???

for goodness sake this is 50NL get ur money in the pot.

really really this hand is so dumb i can't stand it.

relativity_x
05-31-2007, 10:02 AM
don't be a jackass. If you're not even going to give feedback, GFY.

Shizzle12345
05-31-2007, 10:03 AM
[ QUOTE ]
seriously this hand is so stupid?

what's with these noobs calling with AA preflop out of position???

for goodness sake this is 50NL get ur money in the pot.

really really this hand is so dumb i can't stand it.

[/ QUOTE ]

if it wasnt dumb, he wouldnt have a reason to post it here would he? he posted here to ask us how he screwed up.. thats the whole point of this forum.

Speel Posher
05-31-2007, 12:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Let's analyze:
1) You have AA.
2) Some half-stacked donk min-raised you.

Your solution:
1) Re-raise to $10 pre-flop. They NEVER fold after min-raising like that.
2) Shove the flop.
3) ????????
4) PROFIT.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

rakes.a.beach
05-31-2007, 12:07 PM
raise pre.

raise flop

raise more turn

shove river

Let_it_rain
05-31-2007, 11:37 PM
Don't over analyse against half stacks at 50nl they are not thinking like you. He's probably got the Ah or over pocket with a heart. But play abc it gets paid.

Ace0fSpades
05-31-2007, 11:42 PM
4bet preflop or play the flop aggressively. Your line is very weak/bad.

wildzer0
05-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Don't be so tricky. You have aces and a shortstacked villain who wants to get his money in. let him.

coordi
05-31-2007, 11:48 PM
I would make it 10-12 pre, shove flop. Dont get too tricky if you get yourself confused.

tarheeljks
05-31-2007, 11:48 PM
if you aren't going to donk this flop, you should c/r.

Check_The_Nuts
05-31-2007, 11:50 PM
god stop randomly pushing buttons and think things through here.

Reraise preflop here almost always. Donkeys constantly minraise with AK or whatever and will call large raises with bad cards (I constantly try to make them fold l-o-l). Flop do something that involves putting at least 3/4 of the pot in there.

Turn I'd probably lead...asplayed...uh yeah I'm never in that spot on the turn...lol...