think i played QQ too scared here

[Shizzle12345]

dude is 65/12/1

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.21
BB: $25.35
UTG: $43.97
MP: $11.45
CO: $20.45
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $26.75</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.85) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.21</font>, UTG calls $2.21

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($7.27) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, UTG folds

Pot Size: $13.27

[BoerfSt]

I play it the same.Its good.

[juggler97531]

seems ok. you bet it just right to leave nice allin bet on the river.

[Shizzle12345]

then how come this happened all the time last 30k hands. when i get them allin they got bigger set or they flopped striaght or something. So i wonder if i play them wrong.

[juggler97531]

maybe you don't give them enough action? If you are running 10/6 then probably you will get called to the end only with better sets.
From my experience this kind of player will not fold two pair and even ace sometimes.
I am usually playing in these spots 3 streets of value even with AK here against this kind of opponent.

[Genz]

Maybe you play them too fast in general, but you can't play it slow on this board. It's way too drawy to give away free cards.

You need to realize one thing: Pairs DO NOT have THAT enormous implied odds in 6max so that they can be played for a lot of set value. The reason is exactly what you are experiencing: 1 opponent who doesn't hit the flop at all 64% of the time. How do you want to extract in that scenario? If you want to set mine, you need to play full ring where 4 people see a flop and the chance is bigger that someone hit TPTK, 2pair or a draw that he will stack off with.

[Shizzle12345]

nah my PFR is something like 14 VPIP is like 24 and aggression usually around 3-4. I dont just bet when i have the nuts, and the players who usually fold to my sets are bad anyway. I see them stack off with TPNK vs other pple with sets and all.

[Genz]

That's probably selective memory and result oriented thinking then.

[Shizzle12345]

nah i actually checked my PT for it.

[Genz]

Then stop playing pairs strictly for set value and try to get value elsewhere. 24/14 isn't too great though. 24/18 or even 24/21 is far better to get action, imo. Annoy people by reraising them and you'll get them to play back at you with marginal hands when you have your set.

[Shizzle12345]

thanks, yeah i cbet sometimes, fire 2nd barrels, check raise them and show. But cant do that too much at these levels, but ill try to do that.

[Genz]

Don't show. Ever. Nothing good comes from that. Really. It's enough when you take one pot down after the other without showing anything.

[juggler97531]

yeah. if you show them your bluffs they can realize that your big river overbet-reraise-allin is never bluff, cause you never show it. showing is -EV i think.