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Backinblue
05-31-2007, 03:23 AM
Goot?? Bad??? Thoughts please

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<u>SB: $24.98</u>
BB: $5.15
UTG: $17.50
MP: $19.23
<font color="black">CO: $18.91</font>
<u>Hero (BTN): $10.33</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, SB calls $0.68, BB folds, CO calls $0.50
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to SB

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.15) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.65</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.30</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $9.63</font>, SB calls $6.33
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($21.41) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($21.41) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.41 ($1.05 Rake)

ocdscale
05-31-2007, 03:33 AM
Looks fine to me on the draw heavy board. Edit out turn and river, btw, because they're irrelevant to the decision (and may affect someone's thoughts).

Fiksdal
05-31-2007, 03:38 AM
You gotta 3bet more preflop man. Get more money in while you have the best hand, and build a bigger pot making it easier to stack someone with TP on the flop. I'd just go $1.1 preflop. At 10NL you are probably getting action, don't worry. You also give them incorrect odds to setmine. With the raise to $.7, you actually gave them correct setmining odds. The small raise isn't too bad though, because they'll still call with QJ and stack off on Q/J high boards.

I'd probably lead flop for more ($2ish) on this drawy board. The check/minraise is certainly worrisome, but it could easily be TP, KJ or two diamonds. Your push is fine.

btw that river looks real nasty.

kimpo
05-31-2007, 03:41 AM
I looked at it again...

Yeah raise more pre flop, lead flop for a little more and push is fine.

Hope it worked out for you

hra146
05-31-2007, 03:53 AM
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I don't like the push as I think your behind here a lot. Can anyone find a c/f on the flop?

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hell NO.

you dont c/f this EVER.

this is NL10. Youll see AQ, KQ, QJ, FDs and gutshots a ton here.

(and even if it were 100/200 , youd still not c/f it, lol)

vixticator
05-31-2007, 03:54 AM
I was at this table (CO). Dunno if you have PT/GT+ but SB was a tight player 25/6/3. Not sure what he is calling with over a raise and re-raise. Maybe AK/AQ/88-JJ? After the flop min-raise AK is out of the question since it's not a flush draw (you have Kd). So, 88-JJ are most likely. AQ is reasonable too. What does poker stove say on this range?

Backinblue
05-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Yes, forgot to add that villain was TAG-ish.

BoerfSt
05-31-2007, 03:58 AM
Raise more pre flop.After that I play it the same.

Fiksdal
05-31-2007, 04:00 AM
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SB was a tight player 25/6/3. Not sure what he is calling with over a raise and re-raise.

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These stats do not suggest that he is good. He probably isn't putting anybody on hands. With a VPIP of 25 he could easily have AQ here.

vixticator
05-31-2007, 04:05 AM
Poker stove says it's a push with my range (60/40).

Genz
05-31-2007, 04:07 AM
I push over check/minraises on somewhat drawy flops all day with overpairs and often even TPTK. It's such a fishy move. this is AT, KQ, KT or some stupid gutshot draw FAR more often than you think. One of the strongest hands you'll see here is probably AJd... If he made a set, villain will usually employ the c/c flop, c/r turn line. Only if he is any good, he will take this line with a set on the flop because of its drawy nature. But I need further proof of that.

Backinblue
05-31-2007, 11:48 AM
Villain showed a set of 10s and my night went on an unstoppable downward spiral from then on. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Speel Posher
05-31-2007, 11:53 AM
i raise more pre flop, but it is 10 nl so an over pair is good a lot of the time.

karlwig
05-31-2007, 12:07 PM
well played. of course you don't fold.