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05-30-2007, 11:54 PM
villain is 19/7/2.4 "pechardi" mar de plata guy on pokerstars 50NL. Is calling 3bets with AQs +EV in the long run, or is folding better ? Would like to hear opinions.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($102.80)
CO ($56.75)
Button ($56.80)
SB ($24.15)
BB ($46.20)
UTG ($44.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

Flop: ($11.75) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $19.75

Lego05
05-30-2007, 11:56 PM
Depends how much he 3 bets I guess. Judging from his raise % I'd say not much so perhaps no. And if you are going to I'd think you'd have to float some of the time.

Paul Thomson
05-30-2007, 11:58 PM
sucks

vixticator
05-31-2007, 12:00 AM
I only 3-bet maniacs, loose players with AQ preflop. I wouldn't call OOP here but if the situation were raise from us on button, re-raise from your villian in BB my idea is to see a flop with only $3.50 to call. Not sure my thoughts are correct.

05-31-2007, 12:00 AM
I`m actualy thinking this is a big leak in my game I much rather be calling with scs and pps.

05-31-2007, 12:02 AM
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what about in position ?

Paul Thomson
05-31-2007, 12:02 AM
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I`m actualy thinking this is a big leak in my game I much rather be calling with scs and pps.

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please don't

Paul Thomson
05-31-2007, 12:03 AM
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what about in position ?

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better but still sucks against this guy and his stats.

Paul Thomson
05-31-2007, 12:05 AM
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what about in position ?

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better but still sucks against this guy and his stats.

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and for the record, sucks against most peoples 3-betting ranges except for a very light 3-better which i don't think exists at this level very much

shyturtle27
05-31-2007, 12:06 AM
In THIS case it's no good against that big of a raise. AQs is a hand that you must be very careful calling a 3-bet with, but I call it more than I fold it. It sooooo depends on the villian and his aggression/image/history/etc.

Paul Thomson
05-31-2007, 12:11 AM
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In THIS case it's no good against that big of a raise. AQs is a hand that you must be very careful calling a 3-bet with, but I call it more than I fold it. It sooooo depends on the villian and his aggression/image/history/etc.

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give me a situation where your oop that you like calling with it. and then what is your post flop plan.

05-31-2007, 12:13 AM
true, even if you hit your hand it might not be good. thanks for replies so far.

05-31-2007, 12:14 AM
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In THIS case it's no good against that big of a raise. AQs is a hand that you must be very careful calling a 3-bet with, but I call it more than I fold it. It sooooo depends on the villian and his aggression/image/history/etc.

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yeah, I much rather prefer they 3bet me higher to have an easier decision

Bowlboy
05-31-2007, 12:25 AM
Against somebody with this narrow a range for raising preflop I'd assume that under normal circumstances this guy is only 3betting with the top end of his 7% range. Assume it's 3% and then think about how your AQ compares to that range. Not too good, especially oop so this is generally an easy fold.