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JayPez
05-30-2007, 09:40 AM
sirchipalot = good thinking player, only history between us is from a previous table. he moved to the previous table with a big stack, he min raised from button, i 4x his raised from sb, leaving a psb for the flop.

He has seen me open quite a few pots from lp/mp, fold to 2 reraises (1 2 hand previous). He also saw me raise from mp, fold a cont bet to a cr all in overbet from a sb call.

He has only been at the table 4 or 5 hands where he saw me open from mp, fold to reraise.

svante = good solid player
llcoolj = good, been opening once an orbit. was on the previous table as sirchipalot so has seen me be aggressive.

note: no antes so min raising is common.

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** Game ID 760096989 starting - 2007-05-30 05:52:59
** princessaces Daddy[1316143]:Table 5 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (400.00|800.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money

- sirchipalot sitting in seat 1 with $15945.92
- terracelad sitting in seat 2 with $8913.18
- GeorgiaHouse sitting in seat 4 with $11768.46
- svante sitting in seat 5 with $6769.12
- TOOLED_UP sitting in seat 6 with $6364.37
- Rugrat sitting in seat 7 with $654.27
- LLCoooL sitting in seat 8 with $11061.13 [Dealer]
- hotrod7 sitting in seat 9 with $9551.12
- JayPez sitting in seat 10 with $10710.31

hotrod7 posted the small blind - $200.00
JayPez posted the big blind - $400.00

** Dealing card to JayPez: 8 of Diamonds, 9 of Hearts
sirchipalot raised - $800.00
terracelad folded
GeorgiaHouse folded
svante called - $800.00
TOOLED_UP folded
Rugrat folded
LLCoooL called - $800.00
hotrod7 folded
JayPez called - $800.00

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Spades, Jack of Hearts, 5 of Diamonds
JayPez ???

whats the best line i should take with this? my stack size makes it awkward to check raise flop. if i lead i dont have enough chips to 4 bet. if i check call 1/2 players what do i do on turn if i miss?

thanks in advance for any help.

jp

ThePershore
05-30-2007, 10:42 AM
Hi Jay, pretty ugly spot.

I think you're overestimating svante tbh, but ignoring that, if sirchip doesn't c-bet the flop I'm pretty sure one of the others will. The Daddy is usually pretty tight preflop around this level (usually), but I would expect someone else to have hit the flop 4 handed. Stacks are pretty ackward to bet out if / when your bet gets raised.

Your hand is pretty well hidden if you hit on the turn, but I'd check the flop and see what develops, and most likely check call or check fold dependent on who bets and how much action there is / what the price is (dunno... is this too weak???). I guess maybe CRAI if it's checked to LLCoooL and he throws out a weak / fishy bet, but again the pot size / stack sizes are a bit awkward...

curtains
05-30-2007, 01:01 PM
I would definitely check the flop and see what happens.

betgo
05-30-2007, 02:28 PM
You actually have a double gutter, not an OESD.

There is 3200 in the pot and you have 10K left with some opponents covered. I would check and look at the action. I might make a semibluff checkraise, even though your winning percentage is not that great versus top pair (34% against AJ). The checkraise is powerful, because it doesn't look like a draw, since there are no apparent draws on this board.

If you call on the flop and miss the turn, you could semibluff OOP or check/fold.