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hummusx

05-30-2007, 01:28 AM

First hand at this table so I have no clue about anyone. At the time, I think I was thinking that the raise was a flush draw. If that was the case, then calling wouldn't make sense. Then there was the guy behind me who called the first bet and I had no clue what he was thinking. Maybe I was just trying to buy time. Which doesn't make any sense either.

So do I fold to the first min-raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($24.90)
SB ($24.75)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($23.75)
MP ($42.75)
CO ($36.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, UTG calls $2.50, CO raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50, UTG raises to $7.5, CO raises to $15.5, Hero folds, UTG raises to $27.75, CO calls $7.25.

Turn: ($58.60) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($58.60) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $58.60

vixticator

05-30-2007, 01:34 AM

That looks right to me. I'm not sure how to respond to the minraise, don't think raising is an option and this is an ugly hand to have 3-handed. Folding seems bad though. Maybe not. I lose the extra $2.50 here also.

TimeToAct

05-30-2007, 02:04 AM

I dont think call is a good move here. the situation will be worse on the turn because there are many ugly cards that can show up. its a raise or fold decision and your opponents are unknown here, i think you can fold this. iam not pretty sure about my play but the call is not good imo.

ajmargarine

05-30-2007, 02:15 AM

Blah to postflop.

Preflop, you have to raise more. Make it $1.50 to go at a minimum. $1 is what you should be making it without limpers, and you got 2 in in front of you and you are OOP.

hummusx

05-30-2007, 02:20 AM

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Blah to postflop.

Preflop, you have to raise more. Make it $1.50 to go at a minimum. $1 is what you should be making it without limpers, and you got 2 in in front of you and you are OOP.

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Yeah, I was obv not paying enough attention. Usually with a limper I make it $1.25 and with 2 I'd make it either $1.25 or $1.5 depending on villains.

TimeToAct

05-30-2007, 02:23 AM

Missed it too /images/graemlins/smile.gif i go for 4BB + 1BB for every limper in the hand.

hummusx

05-30-2007, 02:27 AM

Wait, no. I don't usually up my bet with 99. With mid and small pairs I guess I thought the raise was sweetening the pot. Probably why I was a little lost on this one. Usually these hands resolve into a couple scenarios: 1) I make a set against one or a few people, which usually plays pretty easily. 2) I miss a set against one person. This plays pretty easily most of the time too. I can cbet it, value bet it, fold it, whatever the board/opponent calls for. 3) I miss against a lot of people. This is usually just check/fold. Except occasionally I miss, sort of, against just 2 people. And then it's all weird and stuff because the board is drawy.

Should I really be making big raises with 99 PF? I want to get heads up? I've been playing it almost exclusively for set value.

vixticator

05-30-2007, 02:33 AM

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Should I really be making big raises with 99 PF? I want to get heads up? I've been playing it almost exclusively for set value.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think middle pairs should be played for set value in position facing no raises. It's stronger than that for sure.

ajmargarine

05-30-2007, 02:38 AM

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Should I really be making big raises with 99 PF? I want to get heads up? I've been playing it almost exclusively for set value.

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If you want to sweeten it, minraise. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

You can play for set value I suppose. Just call then. You can still make a nice pot if someone has something by limping. I prefer to PFR 99 tho, and I raise it like I would if I had AK/AA/JJ to the 4x+1 standard.