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rhizome
05-29-2007, 11:23 PM
HAND 1: BB is 35/15 and raised preflop from BB 4 of 16 orbits

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $60.BTN
BB: $50.65
UTG: $11.15
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $63.35</font>
BTN: $0.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($12.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $57.35</font>, BB calls all-in for $24.65
Uncalled bet of $12.70 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($101.55) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($101.55) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $101.55 ($2 Rake)

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HAND 2: BB is 20/16

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SB: $51.20
BB: $89.90
UTG: $37.05
MP: $42.90
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $89.00</font>
BTN: $49.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, BTN calls $2.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $47.25</font>, Hero calls $22.25

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($99.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($99.25) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $99.25 ($3 Rake)

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HAND 3: CO is 41/0 after only 22 hands

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SB: $33.40
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $50.75</font>
UTG: $48.50
MP: $11.85
CO: $45.25
BTN: $7.60

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1.75) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $45.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $32.75
Uncalled bet of $0.25 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($91.25) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($91.25) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $91.25 ($3 Rake)

rhizome
05-30-2007, 08:48 AM
bump..... anyone?

Supwithbates
05-30-2007, 10:14 AM
Hand 1, preflop call is questionable. It's easy to get frustrated when you're being 3bet lite but 87s just won't connect hard enough on most flops to continue, it's more of a cheap flop type of hand. The fact that you're even considering not going broke when you hit a gin flop kinda drives the point home. Postflop is fine, but fold preflop to the 3bet. If he's 3betting light, either call wiht hands like AJ, AQ, etc. or 4bet light.

Hand 2, this is NOT a board to go broke with bottom 2. Bet/call. If he's semibluffraising on a draw then mark it down that he's aggressive and keep it open in the back of your mind regardless, but he's simply not stacking off on this flop with anything you beat. A 20/16 is 3betting preflop any overpairs to this board, and is probably good enough to not call your flop 3bet with anything you beat.
If he truly is VERY aggressive and raising the draw every time, then I wouldn't mind a small 4bet to about ~20$ a certain % of the time and then folding to a shove.

Hand 3 I hate checkraising this flop, especially with such a huge raise. You scare off all the hands you want to extract value from with this line.


In summary, I think your post is asking the wrong questions in these hands. THe question you're asking is "am I behind villain's range", but what you need to recognize is that villain's range is largely dependent on the line that you yourself take with the hand. In all 3 of these hands you pretty much played your hand in such a straightforward manner that you're creating a handrange for villain that you're behind.

Debaser
05-30-2007, 10:31 AM
Hand 1: once you call pf it all has to go in. Perfect flop, only KK beats you.

Hand 2: pfff this is sick. I'm not sure where you can find a fold though. Certainly not to the flop c/r and once you 3-bet you're getting sick odds to stick the rest in and pray he has a draw. Maybe call the flop c/r and see what the turn brings? Dunno really tbh, sick spot.

Hand 3: CO has 33 here EVERY SINGLE TIME. I'd like to think I could fold in an unraised pot but I doubt it. Maybe call the min-raise and try and fill up? Just can't see him doing this with a worse hand unless he's retarded.