$100r river decision

[RandALLin]

PokerStars Game #10174454591: Tournament #51170532, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/05/29 - 21:50:07 (ET)
Table '51170532 16' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Froggymizz (8552 in chips)
Seat 2: IBluffUOut4 (3525 in chips)
Seat 3: JJJanet (11475 in chips)
Seat 4: RandALLin (10675 in chips)
Seat 5: djk123 (16012 in chips)
Seat 6: Bdbeatslayer (13820 in chips)
Seat 7: BrunoCarrico (11813 in chips)
Seat 8: PlzBelieveMe (10355 in chips)
Seat 9: Traumatize (12485 in chips)
Froggymizz: posts the ante 25
IBluffUOut4: posts the ante 25
JJJanet: posts the ante 25
RandALLin: posts the ante 25
djk123: posts the ante 25
Bdbeatslayer: posts the ante 25
BrunoCarrico: posts the ante 25
PlzBelieveMe: posts the ante 25
Traumatize: posts the ante 25
djk123: posts small blind 100
Bdbeatslayer: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RandALLin [Kh Ad]
BrunoCarrico: folds
PlzBelieveMe: folds
Traumatize: folds
Froggymizz: folds
IBluffUOut4: folds
JJJanet: raises 200 to 400
RandALLin: raises 1250 to 1650
djk123: folds
Bdbeatslayer: folds
JJJanet: raises 1250 to 2900
RandALLin: calls 1250
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8s Kc]
JJJanet: bets 600
RandALLin: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Ah 8s Kc] [8c]
JJJanet: bets 600
RandALLin: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [Ah 8s Kc 8c] [Qs]
JJJanet: bets 4400
RandALLin:

I think my line is fine up until this point, what's everyone's thoughts? I'll chime in with results/opinions later.

[Foucault]

Why is your pre-flop re-raise so large? 1200 should be fine. The min-raise, min-3-bet is a pretty huge AA tell. Honestly I think a pre-flop fold is very justifiable, bt I can't really fault you for the call.

Flop and turn obviously. River looks like a fold, and not really a close one.

[ZJ123]

Yuck, Fold.

I think that Q makes it a pretty easy fold b/c thats one more hand in her range that you lose too.

River 2/images/graemlins/club.gif and he makes the same bet. Aren't we ahead and/or chopping the same exact amount? Given that he makes his river bet regardless, I actually don't see how the river Q is relevant aside from the miniscule amounts of times he 3-barrels QQ here (which I think is essentially 0).

[aejones]

shove or fold preflop

[LSgambler]

Repop to 1200 preflop. Her min raises preflop are so donkish it has to be AA/KK maaaybe QQ. Obv you have to call flop and turn. Fold river.

[ZJ123]

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River 2/images/graemlins/club.gif and he makes the same bet. Aren't we ahead and/or chopping the same exact amount? Given that he makes his river bet regardless, I actually don't see how the river Q is relevant aside from the miniscule amounts of times he 3-barrels QQ here (which I think is essentially 0).

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I think theres a pretty good shot of her having QQ here, from some hh i have seen she plays really weird.

[ZJ123]

PokerStars Game #10172745742: Tournament #51184145, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/05/29 - 20:02:41 (ET)
Table '51184145 40' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ziggy47 (2890 in chips)
Seat 2: Riverloser (2860 in chips)
Seat 3: abelino1 (3120 in chips)
Seat 4: WARN-YOU (3240 in chips)
Seat 5: BMH v.2.37 (2970 in chips)
Seat 6: JJJanet (3200 in chips)
Seat 7: Zpaceman (2760 in chips)
Seat 8: SyraDKE (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: tpreston (2960 in chips)
Riverloser: posts small blind 10
abelino1: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
WARN-YOU: calls 20
BMH v.2.37: folds
JJJanet: raises 60 to 80
Zpaceman: calls 80
SyraDKE: folds
tpreston: folds
ziggy47: folds
Riverloser: folds
abelino1: calls 60
WARN-YOU: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [2h 2s 3d]
abelino1: checks
WARN-YOU: checks
JJJanet: bets 180
Zpaceman: raises 260 to 440
abelino1: folds
WARN-YOU: folds
JJJanet: raises 360 to 800
Zpaceman: folds
JJJanet collected 1210 from pot
JJJanet: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)

[RandALLin]

poker is so gay

[Ansky]

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shove or fold preflop

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I'm guessing you misread the hh?

[aejones]

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shove or fold preflop

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I'm guessing you misread the hh?

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yea

as played i prob get it in sooner, i put 1/3 of my stack in preflop and hit top two pairs i don't even care how donkishly they play it i usually pay them off