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bigballz

05-29-2007, 08:26 PM

A few hands ago I doubled up set>set by betting hard. Image should be solid. I also 3 barrelled a flopped 2 pair from the SB vs. and UTG limper and it showed down with me winning the pot. Villian is ImDaNuts, seen him around but don't remember anything about him. He kinda check/called turn fast/scared. likey? Also, if you do bet, do you bet bigger or go for the fake value bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4210)
BB (t3025)
UTG (t2480)
UTG+1 (t3135)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t3140)
Hero (t6760)
Button (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t210) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t450) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300.

River: (t1050) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t650

Ansky

05-29-2007, 08:30 PM

i like it a lot... he has a 66-77 type hand here enough imo... + the times he has like A5ss, and folds a jack sometimes probably.

NHFunkii

05-29-2007, 09:02 PM

I'd probably go 700, but this looks like a pretty ideal spot.

aejones

05-29-2007, 09:05 PM

850

curtains

05-30-2007, 03:42 AM

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A few hands ago I doubled up set>set by betting hard. Image should be solid. I also 3 barrelled a flopped 2 pair from the SB vs. and UTG limper and it showed down with me winning the pot. Villian is ImDaNuts, seen him around but don't remember anything about him. He kinda check/called turn fast/scared. likey? Also, if you do bet, do you bet bigger or go for the fake value bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4210)
BB (t3025)
UTG (t2480)
UTG+1 (t3135)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t3140)
Hero (t6760)
Button (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t210) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t450) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300.

River: (t1050) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t650

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ehh I probably wouldn't even fire a second bullet against a random opponent.

stealthmunk

05-30-2007, 04:03 AM

they never ever fold here.
everrrrrrr.
ever.
ever.

give up.

Exitonly

05-30-2007, 05:33 AM

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A few hands ago I doubled up set>set by betting hard. Image should be solid. I also 3 barrelled a flopped 2 pair from the SB vs. and UTG limper and it showed down with me winning the pot. Villian is ImDaNuts, seen him around but don't remember anything about him. He kinda check/called turn fast/scared. likey? Also, if you do bet, do you bet bigger or go for the fake value bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4210)
BB (t3025)
UTG (t2480)
UTG+1 (t3135)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t3140)
Hero (t6760)
Button (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t210) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t450) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300.

River: (t1050) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t650

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ehh I probably wouldn't even fire a second bullet against a random opponent.

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im' posting this right before passing out for the night, so this could be off, but i think we have to bet the turn, it's unlikely that we'll be c/r-d, we do have some fold equity, and we have a pretty huge draw in position. Bet close to full pot so we can try for an even bigger bet on the river if we hit.

bigballz

05-30-2007, 07:29 AM

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A few hands ago I doubled up set>set by betting hard. Image should be solid. I also 3 barrelled a flopped 2 pair from the SB vs. and UTG limper and it showed down with me winning the pot. Villian is ImDaNuts, seen him around but don't remember anything about him. He kinda check/called turn fast/scared. likey? Also, if you do bet, do you bet bigger or go for the fake value bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4210)
BB (t3025)
UTG (t2480)
UTG+1 (t3135)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t3140)
Hero (t6760)
Button (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t210) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t450) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300.

River: (t1050) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t650

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ehh I probably wouldn't even fire a second bullet against a random opponent.

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I think betting the turn is mandatory due to FE + building the pot if I hit one of my 17 outs. I agree it should be close to a PSB tho.

NoahSD

05-30-2007, 08:00 AM

Yeah, we have tons of FE on the turn because this is the kinda bored where like 77/88/99 peel flop but fold turn. Plus, I'm pretty sure that every river card makes us the nuts.... so that's pretty cool.

I bet bigger on both turn and river though. Obviously I do that because I think we gain enough FE to make it worth it.

05-30-2007, 09:07 AM

Any merit to a bigger flop bet? I usually bet at leats 160 here when I am HU and feel like it reduces the amount of time I even get to this river.

curtains

05-30-2007, 12:58 PM

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A few hands ago I doubled up set>set by betting hard. Image should be solid. I also 3 barrelled a flopped 2 pair from the SB vs. and UTG limper and it showed down with me winning the pot. Villian is ImDaNuts, seen him around but don't remember anything about him. He kinda check/called turn fast/scared. likey? Also, if you do bet, do you bet bigger or go for the fake value bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4210)
BB (t3025)
UTG (t2480)
UTG+1 (t3135)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t3140)
Hero (t6760)
Button (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t210) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t450) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300.

River: (t1050) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t650

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ehh I probably wouldn't even fire a second bullet against a random opponent.

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im' posting this right before passing out for the night, so this could be off, but i think we have to bet the turn, it's unlikely that we'll be c/r-d, we do have some fold equity, and we have a pretty huge draw in position. Bet close to full pot so we can try for an even bigger bet on the river if we hit.

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Ok ok our draw is too strong, I definitely agree that betting the turn is good.

I generally don't try to ever bully random online players out of pots once they've called a few bets, although I admit that it's totally normal to bet this turn given the immense strength of our draw and the benefit of bloating the pot for the river, although I'm not sure this last factor is quite so important here.