Another Stars 100r hand

[djk123]

I have been opening a lot so far during 2nd hour. Villain is allinstevie. Am i better off just betting the flop? Don't think I can call river?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t25)
8 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6002
UTG+1: t19897
djk123: t25286
MP2: t24920
CO: t9419
Button: t26968
SB: t11575
BB: t8568

Pre-flop: (8 players) djk123 is MP1 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">djk123 raises to t1200</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls t1200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2000)</font>, 3 folds.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (t3200, 2 players)
djk123 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t2000</font>, djk123 calls t2000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5200)</font>.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (t7200, 2 players)
djk123 checks, CO checks.

River: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (t7200, 2 players)
djk123 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t3200</font>, djk123

[shaundeeb]

bet/call that flop. as played gotta checkshove hes got 1/3rd of his stack in there and seems to be setting up a turn shove and you had 50% of the turns.

[curtains]

After you checked and he bet I would checkraise, your check just seems too weak and his range is wide enough.

Preflop I think either raising or folding is fine based on how things are going. If people are reraising a lot PF as opposed to calling, I'd be more apt to just fold, since you can't stand any reraise.

Honestly I don't know if betting or checking the turn is correct in a spot like this. Someone tell me. If you feel comfortable betting and calling an allin then I'm sure betting is correct. However if you think your opponent is likely to fire if you check with many hands, but won't bluff much if you bet, then checking should be fine. I don't know the villain at all so I can't really say. I think my default against a random opponent would be to checkraise the flop and to bet almost any turn if checked behind, but there are so many terrible turn cards are out there.

[DDBeast]

I would call the river. It looks like you have 44-88 and he's hoping that 2nd overcard has scared you enough. I don't really like a check/shove since you're never ahead when called. I fold pf if you've been loose pf.

[curtains]

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I would call the river. It looks like you have 44-88 and he's hoping that 2nd overcard has scared you enough. I don't really like a check/shove since you're never ahead when called. I fold pf if you've been loose pf.

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Maybe we aren't ahead often when we are called, but the pot is gigantic, the villain has not many chips left (about 6000 left in a 7200 chip pot), so it's a disaster for him to either win the pot by catching up with a worse hand (and he is likely to have a shot to see 2 free cards to beat us), or by bluffing us out later in the hand.


Also when we are called we usually have some small but signifigant equity.

So IMO, checkraising flop is signifigantly stronger than check calling.

[acecatcher26]

I asked allinstevie what he had, he said he had kqss.

[Mr.Poker]

I bet flop for 2600, fold to allin - doesn't seem like your ahead enough to a push as only real draw is Q10.

I prefer check/shoving to check calling, as there are too many cards which you dont like on turn/river, plus villian isn't deep enough for any pot control.

River seems like a sucker value bet, think I fold.

Yeah, the only reason to ever check that flop would be to CRAI. I agree with shaun though that the best line is probably just to bet/call.

[allinstevie]

check + fold on flop