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pokerchap
05-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I really do not understand something.

Poker is not a game of chance. I don't see how it is up for debate? It's just not. That simple. How can The Senate vote that it is when they don't even understand [censored] about poker?

How do people get away with arguing that its luck?

Someone please explain?

Backspin20
05-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Remember that time you were at Ceasers playing 1/2 NL and that drunk guy kept reraiseing everyone and drawling out every friggin time to the point where you wannted to grab his Corona bottle and smash it over his skull? And...remember you finally flopped a set on him with that rambow board and he put you all in and hit runner runner spade..... yea its kinda like that.

Because people dont understand the long run. This donk (perhaps your congressman) plays once a month at the casino and doent know crap about poker but he wins. He gets lucky and its not eazy convincing him otherwise.

Sorry if this doesnt make too much sense ive had a few Corona's its a holiday and I like it!

NickMPK
05-28-2007, 04:13 PM
When did the Senate vote that poker is a game of chance?

But regardless, poker is a game of chance in the same way as blackjack, right? You're performance in both is based on a combination of skill and luck. Would you really say that one is a game of chance and the other one isn't? If it wasn't for luck, why hasn't Phil Hellmuth won every tournament?

Skallagrim
05-28-2007, 04:28 PM
Silly rabbits.

Poker is a game that undeniably involes both skill and chance (call it luck if you like).

All games have some element of chance even if its miniscule. There are some games, however, like slots and lotteries, that involve no element of skill at all.

Whether poker is a "game of chance" or a "game of skill" depends on which is the predominant factor; in other words, whichever element decides the majority of "outcomes" determines whether its a skill or chance game.

Continue that point, if you wish, in the numerous other threads in this forum already devoted to the issue.

Skallagrim

PS, even without luck Phil H. wouldnt win that many tournaments /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

rando
05-29-2007, 01:17 PM
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PS, even without luck Phil H. wouldnt win that many tournaments /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

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LOL - did you think that was Phil posting?

Search the forums for lots of extensive discussions on this very topic! Put 100 amateurs who never played in a room with 100 pros, and you'll end up with probably about 90 pros and 10 amateurs. By my math that makes poker about 90% skill, even in the short run... hehe.

Jerry D
05-29-2007, 01:37 PM
A lottery is not a game of skill - But it is just fine for you to buy as many lottery tickets as you want to online.

Betting on horses is not any more skillfull than playing poker - But you can bet $100,000 today at an internet site BASED IN THE US - WITH THEIR SERVERS IN THE US and that is just fine.

And that is not right.

coxquinn
05-29-2007, 10:51 PM
Agreed the point is being missed.

Blackjack is also a game that involves skill.