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djk123
05-27-2007, 03:40 PM
Never played with this guy before but he seemed aggressive. On turn i figured if i bet 99-JJ would easily be able to get away and anything beating me obviously isnt folding. I have no idea why I bet the river since his hand looks exactly like TT, but i guess i figured i could get some value from JJ. Does my river bet look weak enough that he could possibly be bluffing?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t75/t150
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: t12125
UTG+1: t4450
MP1: t5565
MP2: t9005
MP3: t8275
CO: t4380
Button: t11150
SB: t7025
djk123: t12910

Pre-flop: (9 players) djk123 is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t425</font>, 7 folds, <font color="#cc0000">djk123 raises to t1350</font>, UTG calls t925 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1850)</font>.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (t2775, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t2000</font>, UTG calls t2000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4775)</font>.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (t6775, 2 players)
djk123 checks, UTG checks.

River: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (t6775, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t3000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t6450</font>, djk123

Exitonly
05-27-2007, 03:45 PM
I think the turn is a bet..
he's gonna check behind w/ JJ/TT and overcards might end up scaring him/you on the river, i dont really think he's gonna bet there that often.

So.. yea i keep betting, and i dont fold to a raise on the turn. this weird one on the river is more suspicisou, looks like TT to me, but i think i probably call anyway, cause people do stupid things. You only bet half pot, and he basically minraised you, you only need to be good 1 in 5 times here

betgo
05-27-2007, 04:03 PM
Call the river. If he just hit a 2-outer, that is bad luck, not bad play.

I don't have trouble with the turn check or river bet, although you could have played it differently.

curtains
05-28-2007, 01:25 AM
People are dumb, there is no way that JJ-99 easily gets away after putting in so much money, unless you really know the opponent.


Also I flat call PF a reasonable % of the time.

Ansky
05-28-2007, 01:30 AM
bet riv bigger


and fold now.

mlagoo
05-28-2007, 03:19 PM
i def disagree with exit that the turn is a bet -- our hand is really overrepped right now -- like, i think QQ is on the bottom end of our range for doing this. if we check the turn, at least he can "put us on AK" some of the time and we can get a bit more value on the river. i even think there's something to be said for checking this flop some % of the time (but not as a default).

i think b/f the river is good, he's not raising you with JJ here, no way. you can get some value from hands that think you have AK, but when he raises, you're crushed.

adanthar
05-28-2007, 03:34 PM
I call with AA here sometimes but you are beat to something or other at the moment.

EC10
05-28-2007, 06:55 PM
i would have bet the turn but i definitely want to fold this now because he doesn't want us to fold and like mlagoo said, QQ is just about the bottom of our range here