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Exitonly
05-27-2007, 01:31 PM
ok, 50 hands into the Warmup, i opened a few pots early on but took them down with a flop bet, hadn't played a hand for about 10 hands and then I opened in MP1 and it slowely folded around and I took down the blinds, then this is the next hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t9850)
MP2 (t14375)
MP3 (t19475)
CO (t10100)
Button (t7900)
SB (t10950)
BB (t9675)
UTG (t7100)
Hero (t10350)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t600, SB calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t2000) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1000</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3000

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is this FPS? Should i bet this flop? I would have heads up, but 3 way with a button caller i check here a lot.

edit: no specific reads, BB is taknaptoin but he's not really involved in the hand, button hasn't done anythign noteworthy (i should have taken a look to see how he lost his 2100 chips, but i think i woudl have noticed anythign atrocious)

bigballz
05-27-2007, 01:32 PM
I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold

roo400
05-27-2007, 01:34 PM
It's good certainly against these opponents. I donked myself out of this tourney with a 3barrell bluff... But the players in these tourneys are simply too much weak tight/predictable. So here, I assume he'll ''bluff'' this flop quite often after two checks, and he really can't stay in the hand without a Q. They may even fold hands like KQ QJ QT.

roo400
05-27-2007, 01:35 PM
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I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold

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lol, exact opposite on my table, except for 1 time where....I lost my stack

mikeJ
05-27-2007, 11:32 PM
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I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold

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Seriously. Also, roo, I don't think you can ever expect an unknown to fold top pair if he decides to call preflop w QT/QJ/KQ in the first place.

Clayton
05-27-2007, 11:43 PM
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and he really can't stay in the hand without a Q. They may even fold hands like KQ QJ QT.

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strongly disagree, ppl will call the additional 2k to "see what happens". and trying to fold out top pair in a sunday tournament is just unrealistic imo.

NoahSD
05-27-2007, 11:52 PM
This is a really standard c-bet for me. Just think this is a board that doesn't hit their range too often and let's me rep a strong hand pretty easily.

TheNewf
05-28-2007, 12:05 AM
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This is a really standard c-bet for me. Just think this is a board that doesn't hit their range too often and let's me rep a strong hand pretty easily.

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shaundeeb
05-28-2007, 12:21 AM
betting this flop 100x better then your c/r it's cheaper gets the same hands to fold and the same ones call you anyway cuz it doesn't matter to them what you are repping just what they have.

NoahSD
05-28-2007, 12:28 AM
Forgot to say that I think the c/r looks really really bluffy. I think it's awful.

curtains
05-28-2007, 12:43 AM
I'd usually just fold. I check the flop sometimes too.

I don't think the play is as terrible as people are making it sound, because based on the action there is very reasonable chance our opponent doesn't have a queen. Despite that I've trained myself not to do such things.

FGators
05-29-2007, 10:06 AM
You might be able to get away with this if you push the turn because then he'll really stop and wonder what his top pair can beat...that said the way they play this tournament I hate the whole flop action.

LSgambler
05-29-2007, 11:29 AM
I would just make a standard c-bet or sometimes check/fold flop. I don't really like getting tricky vs an average Warmup donk.

Colombo
05-29-2007, 01:03 PM
I like this play better if you were not the PF aggressor. A c/r here just doesn't make a lot of sense. It's not horrible, but I'd prefer a lead instead.

uclabruinz
05-29-2007, 01:14 PM
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This is a really standard c-bet for me. Just think this is a board that doesn't hit their range too often and let's me rep a strong hand pretty easily.

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