bluffing riv vs bax

[Bakes]

No clue what bax has really, but the minbettor is a big fish so it seems like he has a hand that doesn't mind seeing a turn. I have been active, he can reasonably put me on a bluff or weak hand here.

PokerStars Game #10101072559: Tournament #50597510, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/25 - 16:06:50 (ET)
Table '50597510 11' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: gretko (14340 in chips)
Seat 2: T8MML (1778 in chips)
Seat 3: dibsy (8143 in chips)
Seat 4: MANinTHEmQQN (42117 in chips)
Seat 5: stormi22 (20660 in chips)
Seat 6: JohnnyBax (15155 in chips)
Seat 7: cooling (9658 in chips)
Seat 8: ejigjkfhfgj (10912 in chips)
Seat 9: WhooooKidd (26994 in chips)
gretko: posts the ante 25
T8MML: posts the ante 25
dibsy: posts the ante 25
MANinTHEmQQN: posts the ante 25
stormi22: posts the ante 25
JohnnyBax: posts the ante 25
cooling: posts the ante 25
ejigjkfhfgj: posts the ante 25
WhooooKidd: posts the ante 25
ejigjkfhfgj: posts small blind 200
WhooooKidd: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WhooooKidd [Kh Qh]
gretko: folds
T8MML: folds
dibsy: folds
MANinTHEmQQN: calls 400
stormi22: folds
JohnnyBax: calls 400
cooling: calls 400
ejigjkfhfgj: folds
WhooooKidd: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 8h 2c]
WhooooKidd: checks
MANinTHEmQQN: bets 400
JohnnyBax: calls 400
cooling: calls 400
WhooooKidd: raises 2800 to 3200
MANinTHEmQQN: folds
JohnnyBax: calls 2800
cooling: folds
*** TURN *** [2h 8h 2c] [4d]
WhooooKidd: checks
JohnnyBax: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 8h 2c 4d] [5c]
WhooooKidd: bets 23369 and is all-in


11.5k for him to call and theres like 9k in the pot.

[Mingdu]

Unless he has pocket 8s I think you are gold here

[AdamBragar]

Is it standard for you not to put in a bet on the turn? Once you don't bet the turn, I'd think you either have 82, 88 or air cause you don't seem concerned about charging for a draw.

[TheNewf]

Can bax ever not have 88/22 here? I mean if he has 99 or something he's definitely not folding now so this looks pretty bad. I don't understand why you don't follow through on the turn if you're going to do fire another shell. Also I like a big raise preflop given read on original limper.

[bigballz]

bluffing bax loooooooooool

[bigballz]

I guess I should add some content. You raised flop huge, he cold called again, and hearts missed. If he folds you probobly had the best hand. Bax is generally very call happy, and this couldn't be a worse board to bluff IMO.

[sinderg]

you've gotta remember Bax knows that if you bet the river on such a dangerous board your gonna be bluffing with the check on the turn. since if you had any of the range your trying to represent you would check call him, or put out blocking bet.

also playing pots like this out of position is something i really don't against an opponent like Bax.

[Swami54]

Would you play this the same way with a 2? I would assume a 2 to make a much smaller bet on the river. I think Bax calls this with A8 and better.

[Exitonly]

i think if you want to c/r the flop making it like 2000-2400 is better and then follow through on turn and river; i dont mind just calling the flop though, pretty tempting price to just draw for our outs.

[Socialite]

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Would you play this the same way with a 2? I would assume a 2 to make a much smaller bet on the river. I think Bax calls this with A8 and better.

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I think bax folds anything that is non boat/2 here...

[IWEARGOGGLES]

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Would you play this the same way with a 2? I would assume a 2 to make a much smaller bet on the river. I think Bax calls this with A8 and better.

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I think bax folds anything that is non boat/2 here...

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Uhhh I disagree? I don't know I think Bakes' line looks a little suspicious and Bax can definitely call down light.

[Bakes]

okay so let me throw a monkey wrench in here.

I did not have KQhh, in fact my hand was really Kh 2s.

Do u like it better / worse?

[Foucault]

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okay so let me throw a monkey wrench in here.

I did not have KQhh, in fact my hand was really Kh 2s.

Do u like it better / worse?

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Meh just lead the flop with both.