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bigoliver
05-18-2007, 07:26 AM
Even if i don't hit my straight I have also trips and two pair outs. Furthermore I have massive fold equity. good to shove here?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $52.87
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $94.35</font>
BTN: $58.64

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BTN calls $0.50, SB folds, Hero checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $5.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $93.85</font>, BTN calls all-in for $52.64
Uncalled bet of $35.71 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($117.53) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($117.53) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $117.53 ($1 Rake)
Bramsterdam
05-18-2007, 07:34 AM
You are overestimating your FE. I'd rather call his minraise. You get great odds and villain isn't going anywere.
JavaNut
05-18-2007, 08:35 AM
3-handed and the button just calls preflop? Something is fishy. Furthermore he does not respect your c/r. He is definetely looking as if he is milking you right now.

You raise him about $50 all-in to win $9 with a pair of 4s when he already could have a straight?
Abramovic
05-18-2007, 08:41 AM
After he 3bets you have very little fold equity...

You may already be drawing dead.

He has given you odds to hit straight, I would take them but wouldnt be deliriously happy about stacking off when A/6 came. You also have to take into account that your implied odds are pretty bad too.
Edgar_spadix
05-18-2007, 08:46 AM
Abramovic, why consider implied odds if you're moving all in?
Abramovic
05-18-2007, 08:47 AM
I said I would call the min3bet
Edgar_spadix
05-18-2007, 08:51 AM
Oh right my bad. Agree.
fingersmith
05-18-2007, 09:35 AM
There are many spots to shove this kind of draw but this isn't one of them. Sets/higher straight draw are in his range, and your 2 pair outs aren't clean at all. His min3bet screams strength, but you have odds to call for the straight. So just call. The pot is not big enough to make shoving worth it.