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Lego05
05-16-2007, 10:19 PM
Villian is 10.87/8.7/7 (although I have like nothing post-flop on the guy) over 46 hands.

If I call on the turn I'll have aboout half the pot on the river. What do yu think the right play is here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($57.30)
UTG ($61.40)
MP ($51.30)
Hero ($51)
Button ($104.25)
SB ($29.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8.5</font>, Hero calls $4.75.

Turn: ($23) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $14.5</font>, Hero ???

Check_The_Nuts
05-16-2007, 10:29 PM
I don't know why you bet the flop.

I don't call the check raise.

Lego05
05-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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I don't know why you bet the flop.

I don't call the check raise.

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Ok. I bet the flop because I raised pre-flop, and I hit my hand so I want some value.

Maybe I should have folded to the check-raise, but I'm not sure. What range are you putting him on....there's not much on that board for him to have hit.

Check_The_Nuts
05-16-2007, 10:37 PM
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I don't know why you bet the flop.

I don't call the check raise.

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Ok. I bet the flop because I raised pre-flop, and I hit my hand so I want some value.

Maybe I should have folded to the check-raise, but I'm not sure. What range are you putting him on....there's not much on that board for him to have hit.

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The guy is 11/9/7 and you definitely only beat a bluff from a pocket pair between 4's and Q's obviously. I mean even his bluffing hands are pretty strong and usually good. This is why I don't bet.

On the turn the pot got really bloated because your on autopilot. Yeah you can cbet this flop for value versus 90% of people, but against an 11/9/7 you definitely need to check.

0evg0
05-16-2007, 10:38 PM
call turn

call ~50% river

Check_The_Nuts
05-16-2007, 10:39 PM
are you putting him on QJ?.....I mean really, its the only hand you beat on this board, and JJ I guess. Better to check and let him try to valuebet the turn than bet and just get blown off (since he's never calling).

ybother
05-16-2007, 10:48 PM
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call turn

call ~50% river

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are villains pf call and the 7 AF your reasons for this line?

RunDownHouse
05-16-2007, 10:57 PM
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call turn

call ~50% river

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are villains pf call and the 7 AF your reasons for this line?

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Even though I'm normally a 21/15 type guy, I'm sure I've run tighter than 10/8 over 40 hands tons of times. You just can't trust the HUD numbers with such a small sample.