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pena
05-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($28.25)
MP ($43.06)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($71.45)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($38.25)</font>
BB ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($6.25) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

River: ($30.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14.

Final Pot: $58.25

Maneh
05-16-2007, 04:58 PM
nh

CazicT
05-16-2007, 05:23 PM
What worse hand do you suppose he has?

Did he raise PF, call a re-raise, and then call the flop with air. And then just for good measure continue to bet the turn and river with nothing? There aren't any draws out so he must have a made hand, what could he have that is worse than KQ?

Unless he is a maniac, this seem like spewage to me. I think I would have lead the turn maybe for 10 dollars and then would have been done with the hand if I didn't take it down. Even that I think might be a bit spewey.

pena
05-16-2007, 05:41 PM
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What worse hand do you suppose he has?

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I don't know, underpair? I put him on steal.

I did hit my card, how can I now throw my hand away?

CazicT
05-16-2007, 05:48 PM
Well, since you checked the turn I guess I could see him with QQ or JJ or something say OK, he was just CBetting the flop now I'm good i'll bet out. I don't see them betting the river with the underpair though unless he is donk.

CheapFlop
05-16-2007, 06:42 PM
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I <font color="blue"> see </font> them betting the river with the underpair <font color="blue"> given </font> he is donk.

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There are plenty of these types at 25NL calling a c-bet with QQ or JJ and then firing away on turn/river as a turn check by hero signifies weakness....

Check_The_Nuts
05-16-2007, 06:46 PM
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What worse hand do you suppose he has?

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I don't know, underpair? I put him on steal.

I did hit my card, how can I now throw my hand away?

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either bet turn for 8 or check fold, usually check fold. I'm not fan of the flop donk either.

river sucks, get that everyone is always bluff out of your system. You only beat KJ from a reasonable player.

I'd say turn is marginal but probably a fold. Close to 0 EV, but river is definitely -EV. Bet flop is [censored], I'd rather float.

edit: sorry you don't beat KJ from a reasonable player, and that river reeks of valuetown.

pena
05-17-2007, 04:15 AM
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get that everyone is always bluff out of your system.


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That's a good point. I think that's one of my biggest leaks.
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Bet flop is [censored], I'd rather float.


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I raised him pre-flop. Should I now check-call when I hit top pair?

carnivalhobo
05-17-2007, 05:30 AM
raise more preflop or just call both are ok i guess.

Id lead flop and turn, bet/folding the turn. as played i think you can fold the river.

pena
05-17-2007, 06:18 AM
He had 98. I just could not see I was beat. I was quite sure I was winning before the showdown and tried to induce him keep betting with a worse hand. I put him on steal and figured he keeps firing some underpair or something (Honestly, I had no idea what he could have). I don't know, my hand-read skill sucks. Any idea, how can I improve it?