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freekobe
10-05-2005, 09:54 AM
Article in Duke Chronicle (http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/4342642641b19)

Has anyone ever made a fold like this before? Were you that afraid of winning and getting beaten up or having your money stolen?

Otherwise, well-written article
Georgia Avenue
10-05-2005, 09:59 AM
Fold pre-flop.
slickpoppa
10-05-2005, 10:26 AM
I hope the DOJ prosecutes him for that partypoker.com plug.
10-05-2005, 10:42 AM
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I hope the DOJ rewards him handsomely for that partypoker.com plug.

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FYP
The_Missile
10-05-2005, 01:04 PM
Hah, that's pretty funny actually. If he was actually and truly afraid of getting beaten up, then nice fold. If not, nice story.

I think I woulda popped pre-flop up though to about 250 instead of 300.

/images/graemlins/spade.gif The_Missile
TStoneMBD
10-05-2005, 01:15 PM
i usually dont take too much interest in these poker stories, but this one was truly great.
Tom1975
10-05-2005, 02:45 PM
Did he throw his oreos across the room?
*TT*
10-05-2005, 06:45 PM
To my knowledge there are no Mafia run or owned poker rooms in NYC during the time that Strassa has been playing poker. And when was the last time you heard an eastern European accent from someone in the Mafia? Something about this story doesn't add up. I want to believe Strassa, but it seems as if he embellished the story a bit.

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burningyen
10-05-2005, 07:05 PM
I have heard of one such club.
Smarty
10-05-2005, 10:06 PM
Why are you writing about this [censored] in the Chronicle? Has your legacy of a "poker star" really grown this much since I left?
voltron.
10-06-2005, 12:12 AM
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To my knowledge there are no Mafia run or owned poker rooms in NYC during the time that Strassa has been playing poker. And when was the last time you heard an eastern European accent from someone in the Mafia? Something about this story doesn't add up. I want to believe Strassa, but it seems as if he embellished the story a bit.

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im pretty sure i have played at this specific club.
Aceshigh7
10-06-2005, 01:33 AM
Pure rubbish and fluff. Just like his SI article.
voltron.
10-06-2005, 01:56 AM
what was rubbish about his SI article?

the story in this thread is not unfounded, he may be embellishing it to a certain degree, but he's not making the nature of the club/people up.
youtalkfunny
10-06-2005, 05:19 AM
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i usually dont take too much interest in these poker stories, but this one was truly ridiculous.

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And I don't even think he's embellishing. I believe every word of it.

But it's foolish to think that the owner of the club is going to do anything that would give the impression that winners don't get paid in his joint. Even Al Swearengen would treat you fairly.

I got a great title for that article. Since you were so wrong when you interpreted his tantrum for a threat, we should call this piece:

Terrible Read
El Diablo
10-06-2005, 05:46 AM
I one time played in a club like this. Mafia-owned, owner playing. Owner had thick european accent. Anyway, similar hand came down where I had the nuts. We got all-in, owner was all pissed and stuff. But, when his goons tried to rough me up, he was like, "NYET! HE BEAT ME STRAIGHT UP! PAY THE MAYN HEEES MONEY!" That's just the way gamblers are.
daryn
10-06-2005, 05:51 AM
http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/hunter/debgall/images/268%20applause.jpg
fsuplayer
10-06-2005, 08:55 AM
great read jason.
Embellished or not, who cares either way?

and vnh el d. and daryn.
boedeker
10-06-2005, 09:09 AM
i know of no such place.

wouldn't you fold your hand face up to make the guy like you more right before you cash-out?
*TT*
10-06-2005, 09:40 AM
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I one time played in a club like this. Mafia-owned, owner playing. Owner had thick european accent. Anyway, similar hand came down where I had the nuts. We got all-in, owner was all pissed and stuff. But, when his goons tried to rough me up, he was like, "NYET! HE BEAT ME STRAIGHT UP! PAY THE MAYN HEEES MONEY!" That's just the way gamblers are.

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total pwnage.

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ChrisW
10-06-2005, 09:42 AM
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To my knowledge there are no Mafia run or owned poker rooms in NYC during the time that Strassa has been playing poker. And when was the last time you heard an eastern European accent from someone in the Mafia? Something about this story doesn't add up. I want to believe Strassa, but it seems as if he embellished the story a bit.

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It's a short walk from my home. (Never played there.)

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im pretty sure i have played at this specific club.

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Is it the one in the West 20s?
drewjustdrew
10-06-2005, 10:20 AM
Clearly he was being cold-decked. There was a 2 outer ace suckout coming on the turn.

Great fold!
Toro
10-06-2005, 11:42 AM
Wasn't there a hand like this in Rounders? Matt Damon folded the nuts but they turned it up and all hell broke loose.
britspin
10-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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I one time played in a club like this. Mafia-owned, owner playing. Owner had thick european accent. Anyway, similar hand came down where I had the nuts. We got all-in, owner was all pissed and stuff. But, when his goons tried to rough me up, he was like, "NYET! HE BEAT ME STRAIGHT UP! PAY THE MAYN HEEES MONEY!" That's just the way gamblers are.

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total pwnage.

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[/ QUOTE ]Superb post.

He should have stood up and poured his chips onto the table saying "that flop could net heve helped you" in a bad russian accent.
Clayton
10-06-2005, 05:33 PM
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Wasn't there a hand like this in Rounders? Matt Damon folded the nuts but they turned it up and all hell broke loose.

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I think you're referring to the hand where Damon had something like A5 on an A53 board and laid it down due to the oreos.
*TT*
10-06-2005, 06:47 PM
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It's a short walk from my home. (Never played there.)

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im pretty sure i have played at this specific club.

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Is it the one in the West 20s?

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Nyet. I got a ton of PMs on this from NY'ers who claim they knew the club he was talking about, and I'm here to tell you that the one everyone referred to is not mob owned (nor is it located in the 20's). My associate tells me the room everyone seems to think is mob owned has been open for decades legally as a social club, and is the only club remaining that actually can legally host poker games. I haven't found out why they are allegedly legal so I cannot confirm this yet, but this comes from someone who used to be the floor at the Mayfair many years ago.

Regardless if it is true or the wild imagination of a 21 year old expert player who saw too many movies, claiming there is mob controlled poker in NYC within a collegiate newspaper is very bad for us as a community for obvious reasons.

PS: I saw nothing wrong with Strassa's interview in SI, it helped 2+2's business and I like that.

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The Ocho
10-06-2005, 08:17 PM
a lot of criticism here for an innocent piece of most likely embellished non-fiction. who cares if this never really happened? or if it did? is that really the point?

i think most players who venture away from the internet and casinos have run into similar situations where they were afraid of not getting paid, or beat up, or mugged, or not allowed to play in a game again after scoring a big win. It comes with the territory.

it's naive to think you're always safe when playing in unlicensed clubs and home games.
boose_bagina
10-07-2005, 06:03 AM
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Wasn't there a hand like this in Rounders? Matt Damon folded the nuts but they turned it up and all hell broke loose.

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I think you're referring to the hand where Damon had something like A5 on an A53 board and laid it down due to the oreos.

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I think hes referring to when Mike and Worm were playing stud with the cops and Mike was being dealt KK777 from the bottom of the deck
KaneKungFu123
10-07-2005, 11:02 AM
ROFL
Jason Strasser (strassa2)
10-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Its ambiguous how directly the club is owned by the mob, so if you want to call that embellished then fine. There is one armed person in the club that plays but is also responsible for 'security'.

The fold really did happen. There are some pretty funny things in this thread... Just take the column for what its worth, which isnt so much, just something fun I do in my college newspaper which is usually about sports... However Duke football fcking sucks and no one wants to read about field hockey.

-Jason
Daliman
10-10-2005, 02:06 PM
This exact scenario has been played out in poker literature more than once. If true, (which I doubt), the writer showed terrible judgement in at LEAST 2 areas. I personally think is BS tho.

Yawn..

P.S. To the poster who said it was very well written/put together, I submit;

"Now if only I could get that $3,000 back."
04-25-2006, 01:23 AM
Links down...can someone copy paste?
CrayZee
04-25-2006, 03:56 AM
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I one time played in a club like this. Mafia-owned, owner playing. Owner had thick european accent. Anyway, similar hand came down where I had the nuts. We got all-in, owner was all pissed and stuff. But, when his goons tried to rough me up, he was like, "NYET! HE BEAT ME STRAIGHT UP! PAY THE MAYN HEEES MONEY!" That's just the way gamblers are.

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LOLCHOPER! (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feuerfreimovie.swf)
rothko
04-25-2006, 05:42 AM
linky no worky.

i hear rounders is a good poker movie. anyone seen it?
fyodor
04-25-2006, 09:48 AM
working link (http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2005/10/04/Sportscolumns/Life-Is.Good.As.A.College.Poker.Star-1474631.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&M IIHost=media.collegepublisher.com)

This is from October of last year. Pretty old news.
Daliman
04-25-2006, 11:54 AM
What brought on this bump?