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lastdayever
05-06-2007, 06:20 PM
hey guys, this is my first post. i have been lurking on 2p2 for some time now and decided to grind some nl25 and post some hands.

i guess the river is a no-brainer. anyway how much do you bet here (i guess i was betting way too weak) and do you call any checkraise???


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($24.75)
MP ($25)
CO ($14.25)
Button ($23.50)
SB ($136.30)
Hero ($40.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.50) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5.

River: ($18.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $23.25</font>, Hero calls $16.25.

Final Pot: $65

TheDivineRod
05-06-2007, 06:25 PM
I might fold that river, but it would be really hard at 25nl. He either has the straight or a lower set, and I doubt he's bluffing. I'd also bet a bit more on the turn.

jmgambler
05-06-2007, 06:39 PM
ewwwwwww I might have checked the river and called any reasonable bet.... tough to fold here though *sob*

Oh and I would bet Pot on the turn (considering he called the flop bet after your 6x PF raise AND an A is there)

lastdayever
05-06-2007, 06:44 PM
well i thought for some time about checking behind on that river but decided that i have to bet for value. there are tons of hands that might still call a vb.

Bramsterdam
05-06-2007, 06:49 PM
Call river, it's extremely hard to put SB on an 8 and your weak bet induces bluffs

jmgambler
05-06-2007, 07:23 PM
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well i thought for some time about checking behind on that river but decided that i have to bet for value. there are tons of hands that might still call a vb.

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Yea,point.... most players with a T will bet the river OOP, what did he have AT?

juggler97531
05-06-2007, 07:24 PM
I find myself pretty often in similiar spots.
I like to bet this river more and fold to raise.
reason is that villain won't be likely to bluff 3/4 pot bet, still call a lot of worse hands and raise only with better.

Problem is that this small bet of yours could actually encourage villain to make a bluff, but even then i fold this river. some reads would be of great value here.

PoliticalRefugee
05-06-2007, 07:26 PM
Do we ever lose here?

The only thing that conceivably beats us here is 88 surely and he could easily flop two pair with the last A or have a set. So easy call right?

And even if he did hav 88 he's played it like a moron.

lastdayever
05-06-2007, 07:35 PM
i play without reads(PT and PA) and just sat down there a few orbits ago. i have no clue about villians stats...he showed A3dd for TP (turned flushdraw)

Kasane
05-06-2007, 08:08 PM
I wrote in a thread of mine that you couldn't induce bluffs at 50NL.

I'm going to have to rethink that.

Still, value bet more on every street and you make the same without the heartache.

Cracka Lacka
05-06-2007, 11:20 PM
Bet more on turn.

Can't see folding the river, but dunno if you can push over top either.

Bonesy
05-07-2007, 12:21 AM
I wasn't at the table so I have no idea how villain got his stack. When I see someone with a stack like that, often times it's a villain who cc's with garbage looking to hit and getting paid off a lot when he does. This may not be that kind of villain but I think you are toast on this river after the c/r. I bet he had some lame J8 type hand. BTW, I'm not sure why we even bet this river. What is calling us? A case ace type hand? Just my two cents and it's easy to offer a river check line given the subsequent action. But given that you did bet, it certainly feels like he hit his straight and not a lower set.

BevillTheDevil
05-07-2007, 01:40 AM
yea give that some rethinking cause inducing bluffs is the nutz at 50NL