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PoliticalRefugee
05-06-2007, 04:53 PM
I've just started playing NL50 and this hand got me in a pickle. It's only villains 2nd hand at the table so no reads.

Preflop: As I'm in position here I think I missed a chance to re-re-raise with the idea of folding to a push but I hate playing AK in a huge pot.

Flop: Obviously I'm not folding this so is this where I should reraise to about $16? I hate calling here as he'll likely bet the turn and then I don't know if he's firing the second barrel or has made a set. Plus if he's a fool whos come in with JQ or two diamonds there's some scare cards waiting for me.

Should I try to get the pot here and then release it if he continues at it.

These hands are really causing me problems at the moment.

Cheers


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SB ($86.40)
BB ($49.50)
Hero ($51.65)
MP ($50)
CO ($58.30)
Button ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.75) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero ??????

Gullanian
05-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Re raise the flop to $12-$14. You've hit your hand.

If he was on QQ/JJ/KK it looks like he's testing the board. If he pushes your re-raise then you can fold.

Check_The_Nuts
05-06-2007, 04:57 PM
I honestly just call these most of the time because raising makes it impossible for AQ to continue but you'll get another bet out of it if you just call.

Gullanian
05-06-2007, 04:59 PM
The board is fairly drawy, I would want to shut the pot down on the flop.

Kasane
05-06-2007, 05:04 PM
It's not drawy against the kind of hands that raise from the BB. Villain can't have the AKdd, and very unlikely to have any sort of suited connector.

Raising it will only get worse hands to fold. Call and hope they keep going or think you're on a draw. Your villain likely has 2-3 outs (or you're dead meat anyway and raising won't change that.)

PoliticalRefugee
05-06-2007, 05:30 PM
How long do we call for if we decide to just call presuming there are 2 raggy cards neith diamonds? Turn and river? because by then we will no doubt be all in.

Surely we have to take the lead somewhere so we know if we're beat.

jmgambler
05-06-2007, 05:35 PM
Personally I think its fine, to call a reraise PF with AK, as played Hero raises to $12-15

rivhawk02
05-06-2007, 05:43 PM
Given the preflop action, it'd have to agree with Gullanian that villains range is AA-JJ and one more diamond would not make a flush for villain. Id also agree that it looks like villain is testing the waters with that bet. You have two options:
1. Raise - To take the pot down now (fold to a push)
2. Call - Make it look like you have a draw and possibly induce another bet on the turn from the lesser hands stated above.

Kasane
05-06-2007, 05:43 PM
We're committed to this hand. We called pf in position and hit one of the very best flops for our hand. Only one hand in his range beats us -- and I don't mean one kind of hand, but one hand period. There's only one AA left in the deck. Just add AK into their range and even a push is a call. You raised from UTG, not button, so I don't think JT and other random crap is in there. AQdd is the mildest niggling worry and maybe reason enough to rr flop, but I don't think I'm folding to a push here. 88-99, I just don't see enough to even consider -- more power to 'em if that's what they have.

Raising flop isn't bad, but you've even got a mild redraw for diamonds if something comes out.

Okay -- sometimes not raising flop is going to cost you some money. But there's a bit more to be made more often playing some post flop poker. Raise or bet the turn depending on what villain does.

TheDivineRod
05-06-2007, 05:59 PM
I like calling here against most villans. He is very unlikely to have a flush draw. I think this is a WA/WB situation.

patchdiaz
05-06-2007, 06:07 PM
I think I don't mind calling here. As stated above I think his range is JJ+ so we're only losing to AA. I'm not really scared about this hand and a FD seems unlikely on Villain's range so I think I'm calling this and raising or betting the turn, I also don't mind getting AI. If a diamond shows on turn I'm also betting strong so maybe I can make that AK to fold.

Best wishes.

orange
05-06-2007, 06:11 PM
i think you played it fine up this point. pf, you can maybe 4-bet/call a shove. but calling in pos is fine.

flop, i would either raise or call, just dont fold.

jonyy6788
05-06-2007, 06:14 PM
There's about 2 hands in an unknown 3-betting range that calls a raise on this board (AA and AK). I'm honestly never raising here. Keep the pot small. If the turn is a blank I'm prolly checking behind to induce river bets and/or calls. If the turn comes /images/graemlins/diamond.gif I would most likely bet.

PoliticalRefugee
05-06-2007, 06:19 PM
OK so I called the flop and he's firing again. Just push this as most of the time we're ahead?


Turn: ($17.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls ????

patchdiaz
05-06-2007, 06:29 PM
I like pushing this as I said before.

Best wishes.

jonyy6788
05-06-2007, 06:36 PM
[ QUOTE ]
OK so I called the flop and he's firing again. Just push this as most of the time we're ahead?


Turn: ($17.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls ????

[/ QUOTE ]

if you think an unknown is 3-betting AQ or AJ sure, but you can't make that assumption yet. I'm not folding and I'm not pushing.

CaseS87
05-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I'm calling the flop, turn and river.