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Lordy
05-06-2007, 04:31 PM
Reads :
MP is nitty (15/11/3 over 100 hands). He seems to do well, he has big stacks on other tables. Haven't played any significant pot with him.

SB is rather bad, tends to stack off with small overpairs and TP weak kicker and that kind of stuff. runs at 21/15/1.5 over 500 hands.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $35.15
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $95.50</font>
UTG: $74.70
MP: $163.29
CO: $50
BTN: $71.35

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5.25) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($15.75) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $12</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $29.90</font>, Hero ?

I think I misplayed this about everywhere...

patchdiaz
05-06-2007, 04:37 PM
I think you played it fine. On the flop SB is in a sandwich and if he's a good player at least he's not calling here with absolute trash so I'm putting him on a fairly good hand and I really like you just calling here with those nice pot odds to your FD.
On the turn SB makes it clearer for me that he's got a good hand so I think is a clear fold. You can't call Q's or K's as outs now so I think you only got a few FD outs and it's clearly not profitable to call.

Best wishes.

Gelford
05-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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I think I misplayed this about everywhere...

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Yep, so do I /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Gullanian
05-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Fold for sure. People love playing TJ.

Lordy
05-06-2007, 05:13 PM
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I think I misplayed this about everywhere...

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Yep, so do I /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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maybe some advice on what I could have done better ?



Pre-flop. I'm sooted, I think the call is ok.
Flop. Whatever. Could've lead, or c/r. c/c is probably ok too.
Turn. Lead is better ? Or is the check ok ?

SEAN.R.R
05-06-2007, 05:34 PM
was this yesterday?

TheDivineRod
05-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Check raise the flop to about 18 dollers.

SEAN.R.R
05-06-2007, 05:38 PM
as for the hand i don't think you played it that poorly. I probably lead flop as a default but as played I don't think i like raising on the flop and the turn is a pretty easy fold so the only thing you could do differently is leading the flop. Checking flop isn't terrible anyways because of your relative position.

Gelford
05-07-2007, 12:57 AM
Sorry was on my way to bed, so I just popped in with that quick remark /images/graemlins/smile.gif


Calling pf is ok, alltho 3betting actually comes into consideration (nice little article (http://thecardsharper.blogspot.com/) by VanVeen). You might loose the nit and get it HU with the bad player, you might loose both actually.

Flop is a FD with two overs ... one of the overs might be dead. Still you are ahead to their ranges, and hands that have you dominated like AK and AQ can be folded, so this spot is a clear checkraise, and not even close imo.

Turn is meh .... you almost have equity, so it is all about reads, nit bets, he might have an overpair, SB might be pushing an overpair or a draw ... so a shove seem not unreasonable, but ... errrr ... stove this first, I really dunno.

Fold would not be a big mistake either.

But checkraising flop is my choice here.


(Now lets get you back to my tables, you where the worst player there, that is fo sho)

IcarusJam
05-07-2007, 01:03 AM
fold your beat.

Gelford
05-07-2007, 03:39 AM
I seem to have forgot the word 'NOT' in one of the sentences above .... lol, no offence Lordy /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lordy
05-07-2007, 03:43 AM
Results for anyone interested :

I shoved got called by MP's JT... SB had QT (gutshot + overs on the flop ftw !)
I failed to suck out /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Thought it was sarcasm anyway /images/graemlins/smile.gif