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jww9618
05-05-2007, 04:26 PM
Villian is 14/12/1 over about 90 hands. My main question is do you thinnk he would have called an open push on the river? If he has a Jack will he stack off here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($81.95)
Button ($92.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($114.75)</font>
BB ($49.70)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($57.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($5) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls $3, Button calls $3.

River: ($14) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG calls $10, Button folds.

Final Pot: $34
shoxbb6
05-05-2007, 04:36 PM
Unless you're going for a checkraise, please lead this flop. Any J will come along, as well as most K's. Turn bet is good.
River is meh. Either push and hope he has a J, or value bet smaller, around ~7. 10 is too large for many two pair hands to call on this coordinated of a board.
doppelganger
05-05-2007, 04:37 PM
Bet flop, 3/4 turn, 3/4 river. You will not get the calls as often but I think the much larger pot at the end will justify playing this aggressively.
stoli
05-05-2007, 04:40 PM
Play this more like Doyle Brunson would...

Bet into the raiser. He raised pre-flop. He is supposed to have a big hand or some big cards. Lead out and hope to get action. If everyone just folds you probably weren't getting much out of them anyways.

Without money going in on the flop I don't think there's anything else you can do to get more money in here really...

UTG called every bet you put in. If you had led out on the flop maybe you can get a check-raise or a stop-and-go in.
jww9618
05-05-2007, 04:40 PM
The reason for the flop check is that the button was 60/5/4. He led almost every flop checked to him. I wanted him to bet so I could c/r him.

How often do you think he will call a push on the river when he has a jack?
shoxbb6
05-05-2007, 04:46 PM
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The reason for the flop check is that the button was 60/5/4. He led almost every flop checked to him. I wanted him to bet so I could c/r him.

How often do you think he will call a push on the river when he has a jack?

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flop check is fine then. If he has a jack, no way is he folding the river to a push, especially at these levels.
Keys Myaths
05-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Am I a nit, or is this a fold preflop?
jww9618
05-05-2007, 04:55 PM
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Am I a nit, or is this a fold preflop?

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This might be a fold on a nitty table, but the table was like 45/7. I'm never folding AJ from the SB at this table.
Keys Myaths
05-05-2007, 04:57 PM
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Am I a nit, or is this a fold preflop?

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This might be a fold on a nitty table, but the table was like 45/7.

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The initial raiser is who you need to be looking at, not the table.

Plus, a 7%PFR probably has AJo beat here.
CaseS87
05-05-2007, 05:05 PM
I'm folding preflop and leading for the pot size on the flop.
sebbb
05-05-2007, 07:06 PM
*grunch*
I bet the flop, $4. You'll get called a lot by kings, queens, OESD. Start building the pot on the flop I think.

I might try an overbet on the river trying to catch a jack. Doesn't seem like a bad idea to me