NL25 - 55 on the 5(46) Flop R and RR after me

[Maksim]

I have no stats on these players.
What is your action here after raise and RR. Too tough decision to me, but considering the limit, I went all in.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $23.50</font>
BB: $25
UTG: $8.10
BTN: $19.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $7.85</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $23.25</font>, BB calls $19.25

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($55.35) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($55.35) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $55.35 ($2 Rake)

[C4LL4W4Y]

Hand looks fine, sometimes I overbet-lead flop but your line is good.

[cbk86]

I usually raise the pot preflop with a pp, even out of position. The limping guys could have any two cards, so why give them a chance to outflop yo, when you're most likely ahead? I raise the pot preflop, and make them pay.

On the flop. You've flopped what you hoped for, but with that action, someone most likely have you beat. Tough luck, but raise pot preflop, and if you don't catch your set, c-bet, and then it's just a formality to c/f if you get action.

[Maksim]

BB had 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a straight Two to Six) and WON (+$29.85)
UTG had 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$8.10)
Hero had 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (three of a kind, Fives) and LOST (-$23.50)

[SirFelixCat]

Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

[Maksim]

Raise even from SB anb BB? Do you worry about how many limpers there are in the game already?

[mrw8419]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

[SirFelixCat]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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Not 100%, but yes.

[Crimsonjade]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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A lot of the time yes. If you don't raise, then you have to be careful on drawy boards.

[SirFelixCat]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.

PP's are so powerful when they flop sets that you make far more money in raised pots when you hit them that it makes up for when you don't.

Again, even I don't raise 22 from the SB with a table of limpers 100%, depends on table makeup, my image etc. But yes, the default play is to raise pre. Follow?

Others wanna chime in here?

[CaseS87]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.

PP's are so powerful when they flop sets that you make far more money in raised pots when you hit them that it makes up for when you don't.

Again, even I don't raise 22 from the SB with a table of limpers 100%, depends on table makeup, my image etc. But yes, the default play is to raise pre. Follow?

Others wanna chime in here?

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I would agree if UTG had a full stack. In this particular case I'm limping.

[SirFelixCat]

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Raise pocket pairs preflop. Period. The end. As played, I play it the same and fill up on turn/river.

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You raise 22 from the sb after everyone limps?

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.

PP's are so powerful when they flop sets that you make far more money in raised pots when you hit them that it makes up for when you don't.

Again, even I don't raise 22 from the SB with a table of limpers 100%, depends on table makeup, my image etc. But yes, the default play is to raise pre. Follow?

Others wanna chime in here?

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I would agree if UTG had a full stack. In this particular case I'm limping.

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I just noticed this was 4 handed. In that case, you bet your ass I'm raising any pair, in any position. That's for value too.

[1bio]

I raise just to get hands like BBs out and I'm always amazed at how many people limp/fold anyway.

[twosevoff]

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.


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Where exactly is this sticky? Not seeing it at the top of this page. Thanks

[doppelganger]

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...if you don't catch your set, c-bet, and then it's just a formality to c/f if you get action.

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A flopped set has roughly the same odds to improve as a flush draw (~35% of the time), so you need pretty much the same pot odds to make pushing or calling a push correct (1.86:1).

Villains will not always have the straight either. Factor in the times they are on a draw and this is an easy spot to get all of the money in. Do not fold this flop. Ever.

[SirFelixCat]

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If you question this, I'd suggest reading the post in the stickies regarding how to play 6-max basics. Not being confrontational, just saying it may possibly open your eyes.


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Where exactly is this sticky? Not seeing it at the top of this page. Thanks

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3rd sticky down (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=7758748&amp;an=0&amp;page=0#Post 7758748)

This is the post in particular though... (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=7828437&amp;page=0&amp;vc=&amp;PHPSE SSID=#Post7828437)

[KRS ONE]

The fact that 67o gets sandwhiched in this 3way all in is why you can never fold 555 on this flop.

wp.

[Lurker.]

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Hand looks fine, sometimes I overbet-lead flop but your line is good.

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overbet leading is ugly imo. i never see overbet bluffs, almost all overbets are for value and are very transparent. hand looks pretty std. nh hero.