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Lego05
05-04-2007, 10:11 AM
I don't remember which happened first but how would you play these hands:

Villian is 20.46/13.22/2.28 over 1422 hands


Does this line look alright? And does he ever have anything besides AA,KK,AK,AQ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($57.20)
Button ($27.10)
SB ($65.85)
BB ($54.25)
Hero ($54.85)
MP ($34.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($38.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

River: ($58.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $36.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $25.85 (All-In).

Final Pot: $121.20



Same Villian:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($50)
Hero ($54.15)
Button ($49.75)
SB ($83)
BB ($22.50)
UTG ($101.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($16.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($46.50) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $60 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

C4LL4W4Y
05-04-2007, 11:20 AM
Hand 1 sometimes I'd raise the turn, sometimes I'd call. Hand 2, fold turn.

TJgniL
05-04-2007, 11:56 AM
Hand 1: It sucks but I probably fold river. You're right about his range and I just can't see AA/AK playing that way unless he's a retard or thinks you are. The weak lead on the turn def. looks like KK baiting you to raise or AQ hoping to get a "cheap" card. From his point of view you called his 3-bet pre which means you most likely have 22-QQ/AQ+. Call a large flop bet on a dry board, call turn when the K hits. So he can narrow you down to 22/33/JJ/KK/AK. I would need a read that he's bluffy to call.

Hand 2: I fold turn, this is QQ+ too often. Based on playing with him do you think he would this with mid pairs/AK? You're not getting good enough odds for this to be profitable.

I think it does make a significiant diff. which hand came first and what you did previously.

mrw8419
05-04-2007, 12:07 PM
Hand 1 I raise turn

hand 2 is pretty read dependent. If you've seen villain get overaggressive with AK or marginal overpairs in a 3 bet pot a call down is be good but on average folding this isn't bad. Does villain always full pot on such dry boards after 3 betting? It sure seems like an odd way to play AA/KK.