25 NL QQ with odd preflop action

[ship_it_trebek]

I assume I have to 4 bet a min raise from the BB here but after the all in and call where do I stand? And can I call this all in.

BB just sat down and Button running 50/5/3 over 75 hands

Comments on pre and post flop please.




Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.15
BB: $26.30
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $28.70</font>
MP: $31.15
CO: $32.05
BTN: $12.20

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $12.20</font>, SB folds, BB calls $10.45, Hero calls $4.95

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($37.60) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $14.10</font>,

[bluef0x]

Poooooosh. He's probably loving his 99-JJ right now. Sucks if he has KK/AA.

[NSchandler]

If BB is at all a thinking player, he's never doing this with AK. JJ is possible, but AA/KK are more likely. I don't know, his range is pretty tight considering he's betting into a dry side pot.

[bluef0x]

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If BB is at all a thinking player, he's never doing this with AK. JJ is possible, but AA/KK are more likely. I don't know, his range is pretty tight considering he's betting into a dry side pot.

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The cold call is scary... as it's usually something to draw in the OP. However, I think we'd be giving too much credit to someone with 50/5/3 stats if we narrow it down to AA/KK only.

[NSchandler]

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If BB is at all a thinking player, he's never doing this with AK. JJ is possible, but AA/KK are more likely. I don't know, his range is pretty tight considering he's betting into a dry side pot.

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The cold call is scary... as it's usually something to draw in the OP. However, I think we'd be giving too much credit to someone with 50/5/3 stats if we narrow it down to AA/KK only.

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Hmmm, yeah I didn't see he was 50/5. Maybe that changes things since this is the type of player who will do weird things, not taking into account that there's already a player AI. Maybe given that BB is an idiot I call, but there's a good chance you're already behind the button and are drawing slim for the main pot.

Edit: Dammit, it's the AI guy who's 50/5. Hell I don't know, but BB is ahead a good chunk of the time if he's a decent player. I guess I call out of confusion, but I'm still not convinced it's the right play.

[Dunkman]

Odd PF action is right...if your hand was any worse than QQ I'd just call PF, but I make the same play as you did, fully expecting Button and SB to fold, and figuring that we're pretty good against the BB's range, even tho he's an unknown. Then things got all crazy, but I don't see anything you can do to get away. If you lost just laugh and move on, this is a strange hand.

[ship_it_trebek]

I didn't fear the button that much since he's 50/5/3 but since the BB sat down and pushed into a dry pot I wasn't sure if I could beat him.

[bluef0x]

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I didn't fear the button that much since he's 50/5/3 but since the BB sat down and pushed into a dry pot I wasn't sure if I could beat him.

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His range can easily be 88-AA.... You are ahead of 4, down to 2. Plus all the $$$$ in the pot.
$25NL is filled with idiots. Don't forget that.

[Maneh]

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Poooooosh. He's probably loving his 99-JJ right now. Sucks if he has KK/AA.

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[ship_it_trebek]

Since the pot was too large for me to fold i called. I have to share the hands cause they are pretty ridiculous. BTN has A9h BB has KQc River K for the loss.

[bluef0x]

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Since I had the best hand i called. I have to share the hands cause they are pretty ridiculous. BTN has A9h BB has KQc River K for the loss.

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FYP. I see this error way too often in uNL.
People are always proclaiming "I'm pot-committed/I'm getting OK odds/I have to call but I don't know why" when they are almost surely ahead of the villains' ranges. Just because you lose a hand doesn't mean you played it bad.