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tehDiceman
05-03-2007, 01:20 AM
i felt like i was getting really nifty odds to call this down, but should i be folding anyway figuring that im WB on the flop?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($5.15)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($1.44)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($5)</font>
CO ($1.31)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($4.97)</font>
SB ($5.62)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.28</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $0.18.

Flop: ($0.59) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.48</font>, MP calls $0.48.

Turn: ($1.55) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($2.55) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $0.98</font>, Hero calls $0.98.

Final Pot: $4.51

whoisthedrizzle
05-03-2007, 01:34 AM
I'll probably fold the turn, and fold again on the river.

tehDiceman
05-03-2007, 01:37 AM
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I'll probably fold the turn, and fold again on the river.

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how do you fold the same hand twice. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

i was just enjoying the odds i had to suck out. even with ok odds, still no good? obviously i didnt improve on the river but he still bet so small.

NSchandler
05-03-2007, 01:38 AM
I'd raise larger pf.

On the flop I'll sometimes check, though betting here is fine too.

Turn I think a call is fine, but only because you're getting 4:1.

I'd fold this river. I just don't think he's doing this with less than an A.

tehDiceman
05-03-2007, 01:40 AM
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I'd raise larger pf.

On the flop I'll sometimes check, though betting here is fine too.

Turn I think a call is fine, but only because you're getting 4:1.

I'd fold this river. I just don't think he's doing this with less than an A.

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A7o, obviously the nuts to call a 3bet preflop. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Genz
05-03-2007, 01:41 AM
Hm. I think you can call the turn when you think he might be floating you or picked up a flushdraw. But after his (big) preflop raise, flop c/c and then betting two streets, your 2nd pair isn't good. You only beat QQ, JJ but you are behind all his preflop raising hands that contain an A. Fold river.

tehDiceman
05-03-2007, 01:43 AM
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Hm. I think you can call the turn when you think he might be floating you or picked up a flushdraw. But after his (big) preflop raise, flop c/c and then betting two streets, your 2nd pair isn't good. You only beat QQ, JJ but you are behind all his preflop raising hands that contain an A. Fold river.

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the more i look at it, the more i hate the river. i believe i was tilting a little bit. i ran hot yesterday and started off good today, then it went straight to variance city.

Genz
05-03-2007, 01:45 AM
When you say that you tilted a little bit, it is a little euphemistic to call it "variance city". I turn into a calling station when I'm hot in a session myself so I know what you mean. But you shouldn't mistake bad play as variance. It's just bad play.

tehDiceman
05-03-2007, 01:48 AM
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When you say that you tilted a little bit, it is a little euphemistic to call it "variance city". I turn into a calling station when I'm hot in a session myself so I know what you mean. But you shouldn't mistake bad play as variance. It's just bad play.

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i didnt mean to refer to this hand as variance city, the other two that i posted up, and the third that hasnt gotten any hits yet. this hand was included while i was sitting there since i didnt have time to review it yet and kick myself.